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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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bespoke radio

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uh yeah man

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how you doing how you doing today is

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tuesday november 9th

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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but it is beautiful oh yeah

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it really is

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is that dexter

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wow

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it's pretty cool sarah ann coming in

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you guys are the best olivia tara

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try scale

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you guys are the best kaz

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thank you guys so much for the gifts i

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gotta have the dancing gifts to start

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off the show it's a tradition that

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by somebody i don't remember how it

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pretty cool all right i would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the united states

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heather and taylor to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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changer network and the on x network i

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am your host jimmy church race hobbs

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how is everybody doing tonight

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very excited about this show mike rick

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is uh back with us and tonight we're

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going to talk about the alaska triangle

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we're going to talk about some other

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stuff too because

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dude is a secret agent and uh

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a little intimidated by that but i love

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the conversation so that's tonight

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mike ricksecker is here tomorrow night

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is fader night there will be no fader

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night on thursday because i'm on the

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that conference going on this weekend in

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laughlin nevada so tomorrow night is

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but yes i will be at star works uh this

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weekend the all the above and uh beyond

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and uh yeah this weekend november 12th

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and uh when you get to the aquarius

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that's right i'll be like a doorman

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and uh this is funny brad harris

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dude uh wednesday night so i guess he's

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getting there wednesday i had to give

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him the bad news i will not be there

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until thursday afternoon

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all right you can follow me on twitter

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at j church radio

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the sky is off the hook tonight going

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out ufo calling good for you sarah ann

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that picture that gift that you just

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posted that's kind of like what i saw

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over edwards air force base

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man that's really close

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that's pretty trippy

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all right oh brad harris just came in

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yeah well done

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well done brad

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see you there on laughlin follow me on

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twitter at j church radio the sandboxes

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hashtag f2b on twitter

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we don't bite hashtag f2bq is fade to

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black questions

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and i know that i've got a conference

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with all of the conversations i've been

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having on uh the phone all day all day

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uh for the past week i've i've lost my

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and i've been nursing it all day

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all day talking on the phone how you

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doing what's wrong nothing why are you

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whispering i've been whispering for two

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and that's my med bed that's what i am

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doing i'm trying to save myself for the

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conference because i'm going to blow

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conference on friday morning that'll be

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uh the variety show thing friday night i

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but saturday's the day where i won't

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i've got to go in moderation

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moderation

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my excitement is here i can i can pump

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i'm fully i'm not

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i just have to talk differently

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to keep my voice okay it's really that

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simple let's get to the breaking news

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general electric

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one of the most storied brands in

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corporate america will split into three

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focused on health care energy and

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aviation

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a long symbol of american ingenuity the

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industrial powerhouse has put its stamp

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on products ranging from

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jet engines to light bulbs kitchen

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to x-ray machines the 130 year old

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conglomerate traces its lineage back to

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thomas edison and most recently

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was featured on 30 rock

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ge's stock surged today with the

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announcement up 17

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before settling down at a plus six

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microwaves remember the mini microwave

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uh that was good stuff

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all right well let the conspiracy begin

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yeah it's going down

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california governor gavin newsom's last

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public appearance was october 27th i'm

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not making this up

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when he received a coronavirus booster

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newsome cited family obligations and

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abruptly canceled his much anticipated

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trip to scotland to attend the 2021

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united nations climate change conference

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and he hasn't been seen since

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yesterday

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heinz revealed its first bottle of

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mars edition ketchup

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is it ketchup or is it ketchup

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a sauce made from the same premium

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quality tomatoes as used in its

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uh popular earth based edition but grown

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in the same harsh conditions as found on

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ready condiment is a product of two

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years of research conducted by team of

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astrobiologists at the florida institute

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of technologies

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aldrin space institute

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now uh earth's first now i read through

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this whole thing today i read most of

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the published papers it's very

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interesting

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a billion years

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earth's first continents known as the

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emerged from the ocean between 3.3

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billion and 3.2 billion years ago a new

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this pushes back previous estimates of

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what creighton's first rose from the

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water as various studies suggested that

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the large-scale creighton emergence took

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billion years ago

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the new study published november 8th

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that is yesterday in the journal

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proceedings of the national academy of

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sciences examine the ratio of uranium to

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lead in samples to determine the age of

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the rocks from that

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they estimated the entire

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boom creighton located in eastern india

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became exposed around 3.2 to 3.3 billion

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years ago are almost a billion years

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before current estimates

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and that my friends is nuts

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a team

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of international scientists including

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researchers from the australian national

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university

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have unveiled the largest number of

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gravitational waves ever detected

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the discoveries will help solve the

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building blocks of matter and the

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workings of space and time

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the study published today

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on archive that's a r x i v archive made

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35 new detections using the ligo and the

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virgo observatories between november

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19th

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and

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this brings the total number of

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detections to 90

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after only three observing runs between

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2015 and 2020.

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absolutely amazing

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it was einstein that predicted

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gravitational waves

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think about that

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kip thorne that's all i got to say let's

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get the show cracking happy birthday to

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today

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ryan murphy

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warren central high school indianapolis

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indiana ryan murphy

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is 55 years old the hulk

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lou ferrigno today is 69.

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our dead guy's birthday today is

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hedy lamarr

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1914 to 2000 died at the age of 85.

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most remember hedy as a film star and i

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get that her greatest probably was

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delilah in cecil b demille's samson and

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delilah but she was also an inventor

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at the genius level

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she was beautiful too stunning

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at the beginning of world war ii

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she and composer george anthill

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developed a radio guidance system for

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allied torpedoes that use spread

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spectrum and frequency hopping

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technology to defeat the threat of

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jamming

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although the u.s navy did not adopt the

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technology until the 1960s

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the principles are incorporated into

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bluetooth

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into gps technology

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into cdma

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and wi-fi

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this work led to their induction into

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the national inventors hall of fame in

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2014

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had he died in casselberry florida on

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january 19th uh 2000

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of heart disease

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she was 85 years old hedy lamarr changed

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the world

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on this day in history

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otd

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1989

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man i remember this like it was

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yesterday

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east german officials open the berlin

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wall allowing travel from east to west

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berlin

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the following day

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celebrating germans began to tear the

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wall down

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fader fact

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this has been vetted

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this is a true story this is a true

353
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story this is

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this is real

355
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in 2016

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27 year old tong

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onan

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living in china

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declared his affection for his next door

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neighbor

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by solving

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840 rubik's cubes

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and then using them

364
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to create a portrait of her

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and it was incredible

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seriously

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oh man tonight very special guest mike

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rick sucker is here

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and uh tonight we're gonna be discussing

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uh his tv show uh the alaska triangle

371
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and uh which is wrapping up its second

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season we're gonna talk about all of

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that tonight and do a pretty good deep

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dive into it

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and uh and some other stuff too because

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mike

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is a secret agent

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yeah

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tomorrow night is fader night open lines

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all night long no fader night on

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thursday

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uh

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the unex network will be

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having a best of replay

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there of fade to black

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and uh everything else would just be a

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repeat of tomorrow night

388
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that is on a loop right you know it's on

389
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a loop

390
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i'll pick something out maybe i'll do

391
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anthony just tweeted out 22 seconds ago

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what's going on jimmy

393
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tuning in from houston texas

394
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what's going on

395
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i don't know

396
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so good

397
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:16,400
isn't that incredible that's my man

398
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that's my man right there what's his

399
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name tong on

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she still said no

401
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my man anthony's gonna get a like on

402
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that and and thank you for that cass

403
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that's pretty cool

404
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:39,840
right on okay where am i oh yeah river

405
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moon coffee

406
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:44,880
oh man i worked out the perfect grind

407
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,270
river moon coffee

408
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,360
rivermoonwellness.com

409
00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,679
and uh i believe the promo code there is

410
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f2b blend

411
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:03,760
on the website there's no promo codes on

412
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amazon is there promo codes on amazon

413
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:09,440
but not for us i don't know i don't know

414
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try f2b blend see what that gets you 15

415
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off of your order today fade to black

416
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:17,600
blend game changer blend 2. it's there

417
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:20,799
and all of our other fantastically great

418
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black moon

419
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do you hear that

420
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:34,880
it came right out of my throat

421
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,430
so check this out

422
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:46,710
i love talking about uh

423
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:50,710
things

424
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,200
and the way

425
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:57,360
my mind works

426
00:23:01,350 --> 00:23:00,320
and i can't explain it it's uh

427
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,360
you know

428
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,440
i'm probably just like the rest of you

429
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,960
actually but

430
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,720
but

431
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:08,799
when i think about things i just think

432
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,840
i'm thinking all the time

433
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,039
and

434
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,840
about a week ago now

435
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:17,600
and i know that i've i've mentioned this

436
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,320
enough now i think most of you have got

437
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,960
a pretty good vibe of what's going on

438
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,720
i live in the desert i live in the

439
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:26,480
mojave desert

440
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:29,360
okay outside of los angeles

441
00:23:36,909 --> 00:23:33,440
and you go out at night in the mojave

442
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,919
desert and you look up and it's

443
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:38,480
incredible

444
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:42,000
you cannot help but let your mind go

445
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,039
places

446
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:45,440
got the milky way

447
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:47,679
every night orion's belt right there

448
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,120
just cruises right over and and it's

449
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,080
it's so dark and bright

450
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,880
at the same time and and and as a matter

451
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,159
of fact

452
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,480
last night i step out

453
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,480
second floor step out on the patio and

454
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:04,880
it was overcast and and

455
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:07,120
it was really weird because the moon it

456
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:10,320
was weird the the clouds were low

457
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,840
and the moon was lighting up the clouds

458
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:15,760
from like behind and it was like a

459
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:17,200
blanket

460
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:20,240
of like mood lighting

461
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:22,240
just right off so it's weird you know

462
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,760
what i'm looking around all the lights

463
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,440
are off you know but

464
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,600
it's illuminating the trees and it's

465
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:29,840
fall and things are changing

466
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:32,720
but i was looking i was like

467
00:24:41,070 --> 00:24:39,909
i live in a freaking

468
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:41,080
freaking

469
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,440
disneyland fantasy land it was like a

470
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,039
it was like you know when you look at a

471
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:48,799
train set they got the little trees and

472
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:51,039
the cute little hou and the gas station

473
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:53,600
and the cars and it was like that

474
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:55,120
it was like

475
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:56,799
a train set

476
00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:57,600
just

477
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,240
weird so anyway about a week ago

478
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,520
i was uh out at night in my backyard

479
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,679
and i'm looking up at the stars you

480
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,080
can't help it because it just

481
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:12,720
it's just just ever just

482
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:16,559
encompasses it swallows you in

483
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:19,919
and i'm standing there in the dark

484
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,559
by myself

485
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:25,200
and i had a vision

486
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:26,559
a vision

487
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,520
listen this didn't happen

488
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:31,279
it was a vision

489
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:34,240
and i had a vision

490
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,279
of a black triangle

491
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:39,760
flying over my head

492
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,440
right it came up from behind me

493
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:45,360
and and i had the whole thing it was

494
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,240
just like

495
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,400
just silent

496
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:51,360
my imagination's running wild

497
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,000
out there in the silent and the dark and

498
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,430
and i've had the same vision

499
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,760
the same thing

500
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,080
just kind of dance in my head each night

501
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:08,159
since

502
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:12,880
can't get rid of it it's silent

503
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,080
my version no lights no

504
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,480
lights on each corner nope nope nope

505
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,559
just a shadowy

506
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,679
black

507
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,039
triangle

508
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,039
cruising over my head catching me by

509
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:26,880
surprise and then

510
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:28,480
silently going

511
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,390
but here's the thing

512
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,870
am i manifesting something

513
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,269
right

514
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,870
i can't get rid of it

515
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:46,880
and it's it's fun

516
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:49,600
it's a complete vision

517
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,350
no video i don't grab the video cam

518
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:58,880
nothing like that

519
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:02,000
i just watch this shadowy triangle go

520
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:05,360
through the black sky

521
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,350
we all know

522
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,360
if you it

523
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:15,440
it's a fact

524
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,480
you can manifest whatever you want

525
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:22,960
you can do that

526
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,000
am i manifesting something

527
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:28,159
okay so here's the deal

528
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:31,840
so i've now completed the thought

529
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,039
i've come full circle and

530
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:39,830
kind of did this last night

531
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,640
which

532
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:42,960
so you know i i do it again it's fun you

533
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:46,640
know it's like man is tonight tonight

534
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,159
where this thing happens but um

535
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:51,840
and then i thought you know what i'm

536
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,720
going to tell everybody

537
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:57,360
this fun little thing am i manifesting

538
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,159
it

539
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:00,080
because

540
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,720
in the future not now not in the now but

541
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:05,279
in the future

542
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:08,080
if i come at you with some black

543
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:13,269
is it bs

544
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,240
or did i manifest it is it going to be

545
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:18,159
this thing is it going to be like deja

546
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:21,520
vu and then is it going to be that or

547
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:26,630
right

548
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,510
i don't know

549
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:35,679
how to react to that

550
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,640
and earlier tonight when sarah ann

551
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:40,880
posted that

552
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:43,600
that that gif of the flying saucer she's

553
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:45,279
gonna go out you will following tonight

554
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:46,880
that's great go do it

555
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:49,760
but that's what i saw over edwards

556
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:50,799
and

557
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:55,320
have seen

558
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:58,720
semi-strange things since then nothing

559
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,760
like that and that was four months ago

560
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:03,919
if i come at you

561
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:06,559
with the black triangle

562
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,559
going to edwards

563
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,480
call me on my bs

564
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,640
i need you to call me on it

565
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:14,960
if i'm manifesting this and this happens

566
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:23,830
think about that okay all right

567
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:26,960
that's where my imagination goes um

568
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:30,080
a couple of years ago

569
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:31,600
back in burbank

570
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,880
our next door neighbor uh mikey and a

571
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:36,799
young kid i watched him grow up from

572
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:38,320
like

573
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:41,679
you know 11 12 years old you know to to

574
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:43,760
20 22.

575
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:45,919
and uh and he told me the story he said

576
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:48,080
man out of lancaster man

577
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:49,520
you know uh

578
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,440
this thing and i woke up it's three in

579
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,000
the morning and went outside this giant

580
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:56,880
star wars imperial battle cruiser

581
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triangle thing was over

582
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over lancaster man

583
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and and i couldn't believe it it was

584
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blocking out the stars and i saw the

585
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shadow of it and i'm thinking to myself

586
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why aren't the police in the army

587
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shooting at it there's an air force base

588
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right there why aren't they shooting at

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it why aren't they i was like dude what

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and he said that

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he couldn't walk outside at night

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for

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years

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like that right

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what do you do

596
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:29,919
well you listen to it

597
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what do you do there it is

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sarah ann in case you missed it

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uh

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yeah

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this is pretty

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much

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it

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triangles call me on the bs keep my

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sanity keep my sanity and i don't know i

606
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think i'm manifesting something very

607
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very strange and it's gonna happen

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church tonight the one and only

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tomorrow night's another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,710
all right welcome back fade to black i

717
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am your host jimmy church tonight mike

718
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,960
ricksecker is here

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00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,320
we're going to be talking about the

720
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:34,079
alaska trying a lot of other stuff

721
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,440
though

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00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:37,440
i'm going to get it out of mike

723
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,960
for sure

724
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,560
i've already got i've got the

725
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:42,640
conversation lined up right here

726
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:44,800
tomorrow night is another fader night uh

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00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,400
open lines all night long thursday night

728
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:51,119
we're off air taking the day off i will

729
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,079
be driving uh to laughlin nevada where i

730
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:55,839
got to hang out with micah a few months

731
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,800
ago and we'll be uh at the conference

732
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,200
all weekend long for star works okay

733
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:03,040
well tonight mike ricksecker joins us

734
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:04,320
we're going to be talking about travel

735
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,040
channel series the alaska triangle which

736
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,000
is wrapping up its season two right now

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00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,240
and his book alaska's mysterious

738
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:14,320
triangle mike is the author of the

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amazon best selling a walk in the

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shadows a complete guide to shadow

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people

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eight historic paranormal books and the

743
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:24,079
esoteric tome alaska's mysterious

744
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:25,760
triangle he has appeared on multiple

745
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television shows and programs as a

746
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,640
paranormal historian including travel

747
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,720
channels the alaska triangle discovery

748
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,400
pluses freight club

749
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,040
animal planets the haunted bio channels

750
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:39,599
my ghost story it wait a minute hold on

751
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:42,560
a minute mike is there let's do it what

752
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,170
what network have you not been on

753
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,760
[Laughter]

754
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:49,680
that's a good question

755
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,400
i mean

756
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,960
a few a few okay a few there's 200

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00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,040
channels mike's been on them all except

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00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:56,240
for three

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and

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00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,240
he is so busy we were talking about this

761
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,880
earlier about how busy uh life can be

762
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,520
and he is certainly very very busy but

763
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:07,920
his uh his little thing that he runs

764
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,480
it's called haunted road media and that

765
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:12,480
youtube channel he's doing that he's the

766
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:14,240
producer and director of the docu-series

767
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:15,760
the shadow dimension

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00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:18,400
available on the rest of the streaming

769
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platforms

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00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,079
and uh on tuesday and wednesday night he

771
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:24,000
hosts the edge of the rabbit hole a live

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00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,839
stream show and connecting the universe

773
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:27,599
interactive class through the connected

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universe portal and his haunted road

775
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:32,240
media won the award for excellent media

776
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:35,119
in the paranormal field at the 2019

777
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:38,320
shock fest film festival his websites

778
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,200
and all the links like

779
00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:41,200
mikericksecker.com

780
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:42,599
and everything else is right there at

781
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,040
jimmychurchready.com how you doing mike

782
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,880
i'm doing pretty well jimmy how are you

783
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:48,400
doing it sounds like you've been just as

784
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:51,599
busy as me well you know uh it's better

785
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,800
than the phone not ringing

786
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:56,160
that's the alternative that's the

787
00:39:01,589 --> 00:38:59,200
alternative i remember um

788
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:01,599
a couple of years ago

789
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:04,240
uh before we met and i've been

790
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,040
i've been lurking in the in the shadows

791
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,720
you know checking you out and i thought

792
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:10,560
to myself i'm looking at these links and

793
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,760
how many sh

794
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:14,800
man this guy is like the busiest person

795
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:16,079
that i know

796
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:18,240
you're always writing you're producing

797
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:22,079
you're hosting uh uh it's it's it's just

798
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,520
insane

799
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:26,000
and it's your previous life that i'm

800
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,280
also very interested in and the

801
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:31,680
shadow part of things is where i

802
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:32,960
actually want to start first tonight

803
00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:34,240
we're going to talk about the alaska

804
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,839
triangle but i opened tonight with my

805
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,599
little rant

806
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:41,280
about

807
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:43,440
manifesting

808
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:47,599
right and i remember now well let me i

809
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:49,040
just want to start there have you

810
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:53,280
manifested something and and it happened

811
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:56,400
i mean i think i've manifested quite a

812
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:59,119
bit actually in my life i mean with like

813
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,480
with the writing i mean i've that's

814
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:02,079
something i want to do since i was seven

815
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:04,000
years old you know that was always a

816
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,520
dream of mine to become a published

817
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:07,680
author uh so yeah i absolutely

818
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:10,319
manifested that yeah yeah and and the

819
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:11,920
rest of your career

820
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:15,359
um now have you uh and i believe in that

821
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,720
i truly believe if you focus

822
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:20,960
and you put that suggestion out there to

823
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:22,960
the universe and and that's your

824
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,680
intention you gotta you gotta buckle up

825
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:27,200
because it's gonna hit you in the head

826
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:28,480
and you're gonna have to follow through

827
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:29,359
with it

828
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:30,480
right

829
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:34,960
oh absolutely i i love the um the quote

830
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,240
from you know rocky balboa the sixth

831
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,079
rocky movie where you know he's talking

832
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,319
about you know nothing hits you as hard

833
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,319
as life but it's you know

834
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,400
now how hard you hit is how hard you get

835
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,800
hit it keep moving forward and so i mean

836
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,160
you're gonna have a lot of struggles you

837
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,800
know you talk about manifesting yeah you

838
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:54,480
can manifest all of this but you're

839
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,760
gonna have your struggles you're gonna

840
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:57,200
have your challenges and you have to

841
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:58,720
keep pushing forward

842
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:00,400
you've got to uh

843
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,040
uh you've got to complete

844
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:05,440
if the opportunity is there and you

845
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:07,359
manifested it then you've got to follow

846
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,240
through

847
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:11,040
you can't drop the ball right and then

848
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:12,160
that's it

849
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:15,280
and like you you've manifested this

850
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:16,079
this

851
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:20,000
rat's nest of activity you've got stuff

852
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:22,079
coming at you in all directions you're

853
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,200
always

854
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:25,599
somewhere doing something

855
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:28,560
whether it's on location or

856
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:31,440
a live show you are always or writing a

857
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,839
book you're always

858
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:35,200
moving yeah i'm always doing something

859
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:37,040
you know i can't i mean i can't sit

860
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:38,480
still i think it might drive my

861
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,040
girlfriend nuts sometimes because you

862
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,359
know i'll be you know i got a weekend

863
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:45,680
trip here i just had two weeks out in

864
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,200
the american southwest because i had two

865
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:49,520
conferences and in between i decided to

866
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,040
tour the area did some work in sedona

867
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,960
white sands went to

868
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,880
verde valley and checked out montezuma

869
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:58,319
as well

870
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,359
you know so

871
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,599
yeah it's you know whatever i can

872
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,280
possibly do because you know life is

873
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:05,920
short we're only here for a limited

874
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:08,400
period of time and so i'm trying to do

875
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:11,119
as much as i can in that short period of

876
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,280
time that i have collect whatever

877
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,359
information i can and pass that on to

878
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,960
the next generation hopefully they'll

879
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:18,480
pick up the mantle and keep going with

880
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:22,400
it now have you manifested a paranormal

881
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:28,790
you mean like something paranormal

882
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:31,440
supernatural happening to myself yeah

883
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:33,359
have you manifested that

884
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:35,920
yeah you know it had been

885
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,960
yeah we've we've talked before about my

886
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,560
shadow experience

887
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,040
i've had those ever since i was a very

888
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:46,079
young child but when it came to a full

889
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:47,599
fledged

890
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,240
uh apparition full-bodied apparition i

891
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:52,720
had only seen like bits and pieces like

892
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,839
you know a white wisp or maybe uh what

893
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,599
looked like a ghostly hand or something

894
00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:59,839
like that i'd never seen the full thing

895
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,839
so that was something that i had always

896
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,839
wanted to see all the years that i had

897
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:05,520
been investigating the paranormal and

898
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:08,400
that finally happened a couple years ago

899
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,960
and we talked about the story last time

900
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,440
i was on where the rolling backs black

901
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,200
smoke actually morphed into the

902
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:17,359
apparition of a little girl

903
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,319
the

904
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:20,000
uh

905
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,800
the

906
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,280
clip

907
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:25,440
where

908
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,640
it looks like well anyway the clip in

909
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,160
the gym

910
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,319
okay specifically

911
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,800
did you manifest that i i think you were

912
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:37,280
asking for it because i saw the lead in

913
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:38,720
before

914
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,760
you guys set up and then you got that

915
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,040
gift

916
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,359
uh you know perhaps b

917
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,359
you know that that school was very

918
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,280
active you know we've been capturing a

919
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,000
number of evps or their footsteps coming

920
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,319
from a second floor that didn't exist

921
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,319
and we always heard a lot of activity

922
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,720
coming out of that gym so yeah as we're

923
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,720
panning the camera it was it seemed like

924
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,319
something had been playing with us back

925
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,800
and forth across that gym so as we were

926
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,280
panning the camera yeah we were asking

927
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,599
for it to interact and it manifested

928
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:11,440
there right in front of that door

929
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,400
do you have uh do you have a smart home

930
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:19,119
i mean i have i have some smart home

931
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,839
devices set up yeah like i'm not going

932
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,520
to say her name because she'll turn on

933
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,760
right here on my desk right right right

934
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,280
but to turn on some lights and things

935
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,800
like that um

936
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:30,480
not as much as other people have set up

937
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,760
yeah i'm adjusting things uh

938
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:35,440
right now

939
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:39,119
it's just weird and and

940
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,960
this is part of the manifesting and i'm

941
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,119
convinced that i have a ghost okay

942
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:45,280
there's been some paranormal activity

943
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:46,319
here

944
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:47,200
and

945
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,800
now it's

946
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,280
it's it's kind of leaked in to

947
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,800
everything you're a paranormal

948
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,079
investigator

949
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:58,720
um i've got stuff moving i've got shoes

950
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,599
dropping off of shelves i've got uh that

951
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,880
poster

952
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,200
oh you can't maybe you can see it

953
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:06,880
there's an i want to believe poster

954
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,960
right here

955
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,960
i can't quite see it but okay

956
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:12,160
fell down

957
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,800
i've got poster board foam core under

958
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:16,960
there that was in the middle of my floor

959
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,640
the other day just

960
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:20,400
leaning up against the wall the night

961
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:22,079
before i come in it's in the middle of

962
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:23,040
the floor

963
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:27,119
um and it's leaking into electronics now

964
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:30,480
and it's like bizarre and

965
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:34,079
like this smart home it's

966
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:35,440
bad

967
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:38,079
i don't know if i'm manifesting this

968
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:42,400
you know i don't know if it goes from

969
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,760
uh thinking about slenderman

970
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,079
right and and tripping on it to slender

971
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,240
man walking through your house is that

972
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,560
something that you manifest

973
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,040
you know there is that idea of the of

974
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,440
the thought form so there's another term

975
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:59,040
that we that we use for that as well

976
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,560
called the tulpa

977
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:02,800
and so it's that idea that you put

978
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:06,160
enough of that energy out into the

979
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,000
universe that you can actually create

980
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:10,720
your own sentient being and uh you know

981
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,200
we've seen some different cases of this

982
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:15,359
like with uh walter b gibson who wrote

983
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,720
by the name uh maxwell grant the the old

984
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:21,359
shadow stories and so uh you know from

985
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,040
the 1930s right pulp fiction and

986
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:27,760
uh in his old home after he had moved

987
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:29,599
out people reporting on haunting they

988
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,240
would see a shadowy figure with the hat

989
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:34,319
in the house and it's believed that this

990
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,240
figure was actually the shadow that he

991
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,319
was constantly writing about in that

992
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,720
house you and i talked about this uh

993
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,880
some classifications

994
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,920
and

995
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,720
i have heard

996
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:49,839
about

997
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,480
the dude in the fedora

998
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,400
from hundreds of people

999
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:57,359
and i mean not just not not once not

1000
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,280
twice not in fasting it's like all the

1001
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,920
time i saw a ghost what'd you see dude

1002
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:06,079
dude it had a fedora

1003
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:07,920
walking down the hallway you know the

1004
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,880
fedora the fedora you've you've had the

1005
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,560
same experiences

1006
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,800
and which goes back to what you're

1007
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,480
referring to here

1008
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:17,920
and is it

1009
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,559
is this is this manifest you know you

1010
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:22,720
read about it you hear about it

1011
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,559
and you just work it up and the next

1012
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:26,319
thing you know you're creating it it's

1013
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,440
real

1014
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,200
but it wouldn't have been there if you

1015
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,359
didn't manifest it

1016
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,359
yeah in a lot of cases that happens now

1017
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,040
there are

1018
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:37,119
other beans that and it's not just the

1019
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:38,480
fedora i mean there are a lot of ones

1020
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,319
that are seen with the fedora and the

1021
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:42,160
trench kill sometimes a top hat and a

1022
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,079
cape uh some other different style hats

1023
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,240
as well the door is the the most common

1024
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,240
you know some of them are their own

1025
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,040
beings sometimes they they may be time

1026
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:53,599
travelers some you know may actually be

1027
00:47:59,390 --> 00:47:56,480
uh et's but there are these ones that

1028
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,400
also like you're saying jimmy are are

1029
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:01,280
self-manifested that are these

1030
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:03,040
thought-form tulpas

1031
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:04,079
and

1032
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:08,000
experiences here that

1033
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,160
what started off with you know shoes

1034
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,920
falling off of the shelf and the next

1035
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,920
thing you know i'm saying hey ghost it's

1036
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,839
cool that you're here and i'm

1037
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:18,079
verbalizing this stuff out in the open

1038
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:21,040
and and it's probably

1039
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,720
probably not the best thing to do and i

1040
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:24,319
thought it was cute

1041
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:25,520
right

1042
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,839
it's cute and you know and you're

1043
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,200
encouraging it you're like okay that's

1044
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:31,200
cool that's fine and you know i've had

1045
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,720
some cute things around here i walked

1046
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:34,160
into the bedroom the other day and

1047
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,839
there's a dishwasher tab on the middle

1048
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:37,440
of the bedroom floor

1049
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,200
what's that about you know it's crazy

1050
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,440
and how does that get there

1051
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:45,520
exactly how does that get there

1052
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,440
it wasn't me it wasn't nicole that's

1053
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,800
right

1054
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:50,480
and and i said this the other night on

1055
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:53,760
the air and i really mean this

1056
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,920
in my world

1057
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,079
nothing should move

1058
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:00,319
unless i move it

1059
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:03,760
right that's it right there are no there

1060
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:04,559
are

1061
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:07,280
what's the alternative

1062
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:09,280
right somebody hit me with that give me

1063
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:10,480
an answer

1064
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,359
right

1065
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:14,079
now if you yeah if you can't explain it

1066
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,079
naturally then it's what we would call

1067
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,319
the supernatural of course yeah i love

1068
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:20,240
it i love it i love it so what what i

1069
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,359
was talking about uh in my little rant

1070
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:24,880
was uh something that we're gonna be

1071
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:27,599
talking about tonight and uh

1072
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:28,400
uh

1073
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:29,680
that

1074
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,040
for the past week i've had this crazy

1075
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:35,200
and i just it's just my imagination it's

1076
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,760
no big deal but i had this thing

1077
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:39,760
i'm out here in the mojave desert of

1078
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,400
this black triangle you know coming over

1079
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,400
my head not lit up a shadow black

1080
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,119
triangle goes through the sky and now

1081
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,280
every night i've been going out and

1082
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:51,200
looking at the stars and the stupid

1083
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,480
little thing

1084
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:54,480
my imagination is popping back into my

1085
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:55,680
head

1086
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,640
and

1087
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,800
now i'm wondering if i'm manifesting

1088
00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:00,480
something and we all talk about that

1089
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:02,559
consciousness connection right

1090
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,359
to to et craft and to orbs and and

1091
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:07,760
calling them in and ce5s

1092
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:12,640
am i manif am i asking for this and and

1093
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,520
if it does happen should i be surprised

1094
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,280
right well i kind of i would think at

1095
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,960
this point you shouldn't be surprised

1096
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:20,559
you've been talking about this for you

1097
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,440
know how many years and you know

1098
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:25,200
these things pick up on your on your

1099
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,920
energy and on your intention i believe i

1100
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:29,760
definitely believe in the power of

1101
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,559
intention and if you're going out there

1102
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,720
with that intention or even if it's just

1103
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:36,559
in the back of your mind subconsciously

1104
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,480
because you've already thought about it

1105
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:40,319
you know they can pick up on those

1106
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:42,160
thoughts they're all you're talking

1107
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,680
about frequency wave patterns with

1108
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,680
resonance and these things are picking

1109
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:48,000
up on that yeah uh the the universe is

1110
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,839
connected that's it absolutely a

1111
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,440
connected universe

1112
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:54,240
it is absolutely connected uh one of the

1113
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:56,720
things that uh we know that it's like

1114
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:59,359
the most abundant thing in the universe

1115
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:00,559
em

1116
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:06,880
that's what that's ever and that has to

1117
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,000
be connected at the speed of now

1118
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:11,839
you know and it's it's in our bodies

1119
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:14,880
it's in our planet it's in rocks it's in

1120
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:18,079
every everything

1121
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:18,960
so

1122
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,040
why would we assume that

1123
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,640
it's not connected

1124
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,319
right

1125
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:26,480
yeah it's absolutely connected and you

1126
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,680
know one of my

1127
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:29,680
favorite photographs of the universe is

1128
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:32,079
from the chandra telescope and you're

1129
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:35,920
you can see between galaxies these long

1130
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:39,040
strands of energy and gases yeah

1131
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,640
all these galaxies are connected they're

1132
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:42,160
connected to us

1133
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:43,760
you know it's yeah everything's

1134
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,640
connected just like you're saying now uh

1135
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:47,920
the

1136
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,680
mysterious triangle

1137
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,200
was the book

1138
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,839
um the series is now in its second

1139
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,040
season

1140
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:01,839
uh it can you take me back before the

1141
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:04,640
first season started between the book

1142
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:07,920
and the series and how that happened

1143
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:10,319
yeah absolutely so

1144
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,200
uh

1145
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,000
wild dream films reached out to me they

1146
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:15,920
had actually come across one of my

1147
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,160
youtube videos on the honda road media

1148
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:20,559
youtube channel which actually had to do

1149
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:21,440
with

1150
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:26,559
portals and hauntings that are that

1151
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:29,280
are manifested through through portals

1152
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:32,880
and the earth's energy grid

1153
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:34,000
apparently they liked the video it's

1154
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,839
funny because it was one of the least

1155
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:37,680
viewed videos that i had on the channel

1156
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:38,800
at the time

1157
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:40,079
but they reached out to me because they

1158
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,680
liked the information we started

1159
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,440
chatting a little bit

1160
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,839
you know about uh you know the earth's

1161
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:47,040
energy

1162
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,440
vortices portals all of that

1163
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:51,599
and then they started asking me some

1164
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:55,040
questions about how that manifests in

1165
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,839
alaska and so it you know it popped

1166
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:59,280
right out of my mouth oh you're probably

1167
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:00,800
referring to the alaska triangle because

1168
00:53:04,990 --> 00:53:02,800
i had been stationed up there for

1169
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:05,000
for three years as a young airman

1170
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:07,599
1992-1995 when i was in the air force

1171
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:09,760
and it just instantly clicked

1172
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:11,280
once we got once we actually started

1173
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,960
talking about alaska and some of the

1174
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,960
activity that happens up there

1175
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,880
it was kind of a no-brainer they brought

1176
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:18,559
me on to the show

1177
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:21,440
uh when we talk about i've got alaska

1178
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:22,880
pulled up here

1179
00:53:24,670 --> 00:53:23,839
uh

1180
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:24,680
the

1181
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:29,040
back up to where we are

1182
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:30,480
but for the audience and they're going

1183
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:31,760
to do the same thing they're going to

1184
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:34,559
google map this uh what is what are the

1185
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:36,640
three corners the three points of the

1186
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,520
alaska triangle yeah three corners start

1187
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,920
the southernmost point would be juno the

1188
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,680
point in the middle would be anchorage

1189
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,680
and the northernmost point would be the

1190
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:47,839
town that was once known as barrow it

1191
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:50,000
now begins as a u and i cannot pronounce

1192
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:52,480
the name because it's a it's a old inuit

1193
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,440
name

1194
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:54,960
but those are the three corners of the

1195
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:56,960
triangle now that doesn't mean that the

1196
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:00,400
activity is contained you know

1197
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,720
specifically within that it extends out

1198
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,319
it's more kind of almost circular in

1199
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,720
nature but we tend to pick three major

1200
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:09,280
points to say this is the general area

1201
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,319
now when you were stationed uh up there

1202
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:16,640
what were the rumors like and did you

1203
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,119
hear about the abductions in anchorage

1204
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:23,119
yeah so we didn't refer to it really as

1205
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,800
the alaska triangle back then it's a

1206
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:28,720
little bit more of a modern term but

1207
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,800
there was all kinds of strange activity

1208
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,880
that would happen in alaska you know

1209
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:35,119
there were rumors of the ufo activity

1210
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,359
and whispers about that i

1211
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,760
i will say i was not witness to any up

1212
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:41,200
there while i was stationed there but

1213
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:43,440
guys talked about it on base uh there's

1214
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,200
no way you can get around

1215
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,839
not talking about it um you know even

1216
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:49,760
just strange bizarre things that would

1217
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,640
happen

1218
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,880
like you know a few months after

1219
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,119
uh i had gotten up there

1220
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:57,200
there's a plane taking off from the

1221
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:59,200
anchorage airport also in the engine

1222
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,280
fell right off the airplane and into a

1223
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,200
supermarket parking lot absolutely

1224
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,520
bizarre it's even more bizarre than that

1225
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,000
is nobody got hurt it fell into the back

1226
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,319
side of the parking lot shrapnel rained

1227
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,559
down into you know people's homes and

1228
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,160
apartments

1229
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:16,240
right through the roof nobody hurt

1230
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:17,920
whatsoever but

1231
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:19,760
you know still here's his engine in the

1232
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,520
supermarket parking lot and they turned

1233
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,359
the plane around and went back you know

1234
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,359
just crazy bizarre things like that

1235
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:27,359
would happen up there and then of course

1236
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,720
you have all the uh the strange

1237
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:30,240
disappearances

1238
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:32,079
uh you know missing airplanes missing

1239
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,000
people 16 000 people have gone missing

1240
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:36,240
in alaska since 1988

1241
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:37,280
the most

1242
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,760
famous is the the boggs baggage uh

1243
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:41,839
disappearance in 1972 you talked about

1244
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:43,839
the speaker of the house and alaska

1245
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,559
congressmen still to this day they have

1246
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:48,559
no information as to what in the world

1247
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:49,760
happened to them

1248
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:50,880
and

1249
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,880
it's it's it's it's so big

1250
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:57,200
so big so big and we bought it for like

1251
00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:00,319
2 million bucks too as well that's uh

1252
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,280
yeah

1253
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,440
of it

1254
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,960
uh but it's you know two and a half

1255
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,119
times the size of texas but when we look

1256
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,880
at a map of the united states they just

1257
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:10,400
stick it down in a little box in the

1258
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:11,680
corner so it's like

1259
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:14,240
we have alaska too but it is massive it

1260
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,240
is massive it is massive um now uh going

1261
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:20,720
back i want to touch upon

1262
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:23,599
uh anchorage um i

1263
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,640
i did the deep this is before the movie

1264
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,240
uh it started to

1265
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:30,640
you know hear these stories about alien

1266
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:34,240
abductions happening in anchorage

1267
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:36,480
and and contact

1268
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:39,760
uh did this stuff make the news was this

1269
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,640
was this out there

1270
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,640
i mean at the time that i was there it

1271
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:46,559
wasn't really in the news

1272
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,559
so much you kind of had this period of

1273
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:51,520
time where you know talking about ufos

1274
00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:56,319
was was taboo um so you didn't see it in

1275
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,559
the news so much then but you heard

1276
00:57:02,789 --> 00:57:00,000
people talking about you heard people

1277
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:02,799
really talking about the older cases

1278
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:03,760
um

1279
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,319
you know about uh you know the the ufo

1280
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:08,880
sightings around kodiak you know because

1281
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:10,960
it was it was the military it had to do

1282
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,559
with the with the navy

1283
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,400
uh those sightings and so those were

1284
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,000
kind of you know making

1285
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:18,400
the circles around us you know as far as

1286
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:21,520
the uh well you can't get around

1287
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,520
the uh the 1986 japan airlines yeah yeah

1288
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,760
the japan airlines uh that was that was

1289
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,440
big you know the reagan administration

1290
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,359
was involved with that so of course we

1291
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:33,520
heard about that as well

1292
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:36,720
and uh before uh we get to the break as

1293
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:37,520
you

1294
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,400
started to put the book together uh

1295
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:42,559
before the series and you start

1296
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,920
investigating this were you aware of and

1297
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:48,000
you start to pinpoint and see

1298
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:49,920
geographically where this action is

1299
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,359
taking place

1300
00:57:55,900 --> 00:57:53,520
is that how the alaska triangle started

1301
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,910
to manifest itself

1302
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,520
[Laughter]

1303
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:58,880
yeah you know over the years people

1304
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:00,960
started to to put together that you have

1305
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,160
all this bizarre activity happening in

1306
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,160
that area now we get the the triangle

1307
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,319
term of course from the bermuda triangle

1308
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:10,720
that's when we really started using that

1309
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:12,079
term and then we you know we started

1310
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,280
discovering over the years there are

1311
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:15,119
other locations around the globe that

1312
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:16,720
have this strange activity like the

1313
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,280
dragon triangle there near japan

1314
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,359
bridgewater in the massachusetts area

1315
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,119
lake michigan where you've had all kinds

1316
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,599
of crazy missing boats and airplanes the

1317
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,839
same thing people were realizing this is

1318
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:29,760
going on in alaska too and you just

1319
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,559
start adding up those numbers and you

1320
00:58:35,829 --> 00:58:34,240
know just the strange bizarre stories

1321
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:35,839
coming out there's like okay this is one

1322
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:38,960
of those areas too and uh when we talk

1323
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:41,920
about eighteen thousand or eighteen

1324
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:43,839
thousand nineteen thousand or how many

1325
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:45,119
missing people

1326
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,480
since eighty-eight

1327
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,880
yes sixteen thousand people since

1328
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:51,359
sixteen 000

1329
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:52,640
and

1330
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:56,000
is is this in a general sense uh in the

1331
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:59,040
area of the alaska triangle

1332
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,240
yeah that's

1333
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,240
and that's that's the big deal is that

1334
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,200
it is well it's a number that is for the

1335
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:07,599
state of alaska you look at where the

1336
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,720
disappearances are and they are within

1337
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:12,480
primarily that region of the triangle

1338
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:15,040
now how crazy is that i mean even for

1339
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:17,200
you i mean do you step or start to step

1340
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,200
back and go okay something is really

1341
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,839
going on here oh absolutely because you

1342
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:23,760
you think of you know sixteen thousand

1343
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,240
people well that might not yeah you're

1344
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,880
talking you know 30 years time

1345
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,480
if you're talking about a more populous

1346
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,720
state like california texas new york it

1347
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:34,640
might not sound like a big number but

1348
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,319
there aren't that many people in alaska

1349
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:38,480
it's a pretty sparsely populated state

1350
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:41,839
so that that number becomes you know

1351
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:45,200
infinitely huge so the percentage of you

1352
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:46,799
know the population that has gone

1353
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,640
missing since that time

1354
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,000
it far

1355
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,640
uh far exceeds any other state now uh

1356
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,480
when we come back i want to talk about

1357
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:57,119
uh some more of these interesting cases

1358
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,480
in that area and then of course uh

1359
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:02,559
what you chose to cover

1360
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:04,640
in in the tv series and and

1361
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:07,040
congratulations by the way uh two

1362
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:09,280
seasons is uh is a very big deal so

1363
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,440
congratulations on that let's take our

1364
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,359
break right here this is fade to black

1365
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:16,000
our guest tonight mike ricksecker we are

1366
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:17,920
talking about the alaska triangle and

1367
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,119
we're going to talk about some other

1368
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,760
stuff too i guarantee it this is fade to

1369
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:23,599
black i'm your host jimmy church

1370
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:25,839
stay with us on the game changer network

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01:00:31,740 --> 01:00:28,880
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1372
01:00:48,580 --> 01:00:31,750
this short break stay with us

1373
01:00:48,590 --> 01:00:54,150
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1374
01:00:59,840 --> 01:00:56,390
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01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,850
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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:49,510
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:50,880
host jimmy church tonight mike

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01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:53,280
ricksecker is back with us

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01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:54,799
talking about

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01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:58,000
the alaska triangle

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01:06:02,110 --> 01:05:59,440
and uh

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01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:02,120
check this out mike

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01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:16,710
that's that's the the white uh dj uh

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uh pronunciation youtube youtube vic

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right

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01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,680
yeah that you know that is a fantastic

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01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,960
effort jimmy

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01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:27,280
because anytime i try to say it i i just

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stumble over my own tongue and hey good

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01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:32,240
job what kind thank you for that uh i

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01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:33,760
rehearsed it i walked around in the

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studio during the break

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uh repeating that um

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that is the northern most tip

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01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:44,640
of alaska

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01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:47,520
yes i don't know uh i'm going to take a

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01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,359
guess here uh 600 miles from anchorage

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right it's it's all the way across the

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state and then reaching over to juno

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and coming back down and completing the

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01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:59,039
triangle how many square miles are we

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talking about here

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oh geez um

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i mean

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01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:08,160
hundreds of thousands of squares miles i

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01:07:14,309 --> 01:07:10,799
i i do not recall the number top of my

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01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:14,319
head yeah it's an insane size it's uh

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01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:17,839
it's truly an insane size um but it is

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the northern most tip

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uh there on a la in alaska

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um

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who

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uh

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01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,720
who co-stars with you we're going to be

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01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:31,200
talking about uh all of them tonight on

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01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:32,240
the show

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01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:34,079
oh on the alaska triangle our good

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01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:36,559
friend johnny enoch uh is on the show

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01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:39,440
hugh newman uh andrew goff

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01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:43,039
uh we also had um jeez who else did we

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have

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there we had jeremy ray from mufon uh

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01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:49,119
has been on there so uh yeah quite a few

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01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,359
uh james fox

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yeah exactly and and is that one of the

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cool opportunities with the show is to

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01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:58,400
bring in different guests each week

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yeah what's been really interesting is

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01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:03,039
you get a you know a large variety of

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01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,720
different people on this show you know

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01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,799
they have you know some local people

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01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:08,400
there as well

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01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:09,760
local paranormal investigator has been

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01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:11,440
doing some work there on the show uh

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01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:14,079
mike cook i've never personally met him

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01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,719
but they introduced him this year

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01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:18,560
uh and so it's it's nice to see other

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01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:21,279
people you know get some recognition and

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01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,560
see how they work

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01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:24,560
now uh everybody's got a different

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01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:27,520
approach and and and jeremy who i love

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01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:29,839
we actually hung out together we did

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01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,120
yeah yeah

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01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,960
yeah i forgot about that

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01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,400
yeah that's right that's right the three

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01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:36,400
of us um

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01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:39,359
jeremy's got a very unique take on

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01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:40,319
things

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01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:43,839
uh johnny is about as is as crazy as it

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01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:45,440
gets and he's one of the smartest people

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01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:46,880
that i know

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01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:49,839
um and he's got an interesting view

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01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:53,040
and and and you how do you how do you

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01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,040
uh look at yourself

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01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:56,960
uh in this team are you the black and

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01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:00,000
white pragmatic guy

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01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:00,880
uh

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01:09:04,829 --> 01:09:03,759
[Music]

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01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:04,839
you know

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01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:08,400
well i say that but what they had me

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01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,000
doing on this show was a little

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01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,239
different than

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01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:16,480
perhaps what i normally do so you know

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01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,799
as a paranormal investigator i usually

1563
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,199
i'm specifically in a location i do a

1564
01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:23,199
lot of historic research going into a

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01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,719
location and then of course i have the

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01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:26,319
different equipment and devices a lot of

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01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:27,600
cameras

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01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:29,759
and what they had me doing for this

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01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:32,000
television show was they basically stuck

1570
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:33,359
me on the side of a mountain with a

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01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,199
couple of dowsing rods and an emf

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01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:37,920
detector and said find us

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01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:40,239
a a lurker and find us the earth's

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01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:41,440
energy grid

1575
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:43,120
and you know it's really a shot in the

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01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:44,560
dark approach now they had me up there

1577
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:46,719
all day uh you know

1578
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:48,159
asking questions doing an interview and

1579
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:51,279
all that and then you know as we're um

1580
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:52,799
we're dead tired from all of that

1581
01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:55,360
they're like let's find this okay let's

1582
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:56,320
do it

1583
01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:59,840
and sure enough you know i did find

1584
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:02,159
one of those energy lines going from the

1585
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:04,640
top of flat or from the top of flattop

1586
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:06,880
mountain all the way down to anchorage i

1587
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:09,760
could draw a line and so our shot in the

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01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:12,560
dark approach actually worked

1589
01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:13,600
and

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01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,640
uh

1591
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,880
and i love johnny enoch for this too as

1592
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,840
well

1593
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:19,679
there must be

1594
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,120
vortexes

1595
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:23,600
big ones powerful ones all over the

1596
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:24,880
state

1597
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:26,719
oh yeah yeah i mean this is and that's

1598
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,880
kind of the whole crux of the of the

1599
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:30,719
alaska triangle you know when we talk

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01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:33,679
about uh vortices you know this is

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01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,920
something that's it's the uh

1602
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,320
it's the earth's magnetic core that that

1603
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:40,880
magnetism that's welling up from the

1604
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:44,080
core and is spawning off all of this

1605
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,640
activity like the portals and you know

1606
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,400
these different different disappearances

1607
01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:50,640
this you know crazy paranormal activity

1608
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:53,199
and it's it's such a volatile area so

1609
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:55,199
you have that magnetic activity and you

1610
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:57,440
look at the

1611
01:11:01,830 --> 01:11:00,880
us uh the u.s geological uh

1612
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:01,840
uh

1613
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:04,000
readings that they have taken there over

1614
01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:05,520
the years you know this isn't something

1615
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:07,920
that you know some metaphysical guys are

1616
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:09,679
coming up with this is actually measured

1617
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:10,560
data

1618
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:12,719
by the united states where they have

1619
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,880
measured this magnetism and then you

1620
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:16,800
have you know all the earthquakes up

1621
01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:18,880
there the land is extremely volatile so

1622
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:20,719
you have all this energy that's getting

1623
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:22,800
pent up and then released all the time i

1624
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,239
was up there for

1625
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,280
it was a six point i think it was a 6.8

1626
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,000
earthquake uh they just had a eight

1627
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:32,640
pointer up there earlier this year uh

1628
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:34,640
second largest earthquake that we have

1629
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:37,679
on record in the world was in anchorage

1630
01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:40,640
absolutely devastated the city

1631
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:42,640
and then you have volcanic activity you

1632
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:44,080
know when when i stepped off the

1633
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:46,800
airplane in 1992 there's still ash

1634
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:49,199
falling from the sky from mount spur

1635
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:52,320
which just erupted across the cook inlet

1636
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:54,560
from anchorage and then

1637
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:55,760
you have

1638
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:57,679
the you know we look at up at the sky

1639
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:59,679
and we see oh the aurora borealis that's

1640
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:00,719
beautiful

1641
01:12:05,669 --> 01:12:03,600
but what that is is you have those solar

1642
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:05,679
flares from the sun the electrons and

1643
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:08,320
protons uh smashing against the

1644
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:10,480
ionosphere creating that and up in

1645
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:13,120
alaska that magnetic protection from the

1646
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,239
earth is actually thinner so you're

1647
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:18,000
getting hit with all of this solar

1648
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:20,239
activity as well that's even you know

1649
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:23,679
energizing the area more so you have all

1650
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:26,239
of this uh you know activity going on

1651
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:29,120
there and so many different facets that

1652
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:31,360
that's no wonder there's so

1653
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:33,600
much craziness going on up there now

1654
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:34,719
what

1655
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:38,560
with the vortex uh which uh are all over

1656
01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:40,880
the state and reports of this and and

1657
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,080
not just

1658
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,880
like a little vortex in your backyard

1659
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:46,560
type of vortex we're talking about

1660
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:47,760
things that are

1661
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:51,920
generated by huge uh granite mountains

1662
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:54,880
and and rocks and magnetic activity

1663
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:57,760
uh and everything else that is going on

1664
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:00,800
underneath alaska that is forcing this

1665
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:02,560
stuff up to the surface

1666
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:05,760
um but when we talk about vortexes what

1667
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,520
do they cause

1668
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:09,600
ultimately

1669
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:10,480
yeah

1670
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:14,080
ultimately they they cause havoc to us

1671
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:14,880
so

1672
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:17,600
uh basically it's it's this magnetic

1673
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:18,640
force

1674
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:21,920
that comes up out of the earth and it

1675
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:22,800
could

1676
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:24,800
appear as

1677
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:26,560
whether it's you know supernatural

1678
01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:28,880
paranormal activity it could you know

1679
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:31,040
ufos are attracted to this you know it's

1680
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,520
it's an energy that you know we have

1681
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,199
different ideas as to you know what

1682
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,199
they're using that energy for are they

1683
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:39,920
are they uh powering up and recharging

1684
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:42,640
with that energy you know is there you

1685
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:45,600
know stargate activity there a lot of

1686
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:48,000
times um you know where how this

1687
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:51,440
manifests is in portals so you have

1688
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:54,560
you know airplanes that go missing and

1689
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:57,040
uh you know a great example is because

1690
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,560
somebody who's actually survived one

1691
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:00,400
this was down the bermuda triangle bruce

1692
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:03,280
gurnen uh yo he survived going through

1693
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:06,400
one of these uh tunnels you know the

1694
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,800
clouds started swirling into

1695
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:09,840
uh

1696
01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:12,159
this you know vortex tunnel he actually

1697
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:13,840
came out on the other side but you have

1698
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,080
these airplanes that go missing a lot of

1699
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:18,560
suspicion lies in okay did they go

1700
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:20,320
through one of these portals and end up

1701
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:22,800
in some other place in space time and

1702
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:25,520
it's it's very likely and we have um a

1703
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:26,880
lot of theories

1704
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,719
regarding like the the

1705
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:30,640
uh douglas skymaster that went missing

1706
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:32,480
in 1950

1707
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,239
let's talk about that case let's talk

1708
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:36,719
about that case for a second sure i

1709
01:14:41,270 --> 01:14:39,280
remember uh and we're going to go

1710
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:41,280
through the background on this case but

1711
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,840
i remember reading about it and we're

1712
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:45,840
talking about it first off douglas sky

1713
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:49,440
master number one two a a pretty

1714
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,440
like eight or ten crew members i could

1715
01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:53,360
be wrong you can correct me

1716
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:57,280
a 44 44 oh i thought it was like 10

1717
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:59,040
okay it's been a while since i read

1718
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:00,320
about the case

1719
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,320
but um it completely disappeared

1720
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:06,640
yeah yeah completely disappeared

1721
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:08,400
and you know it wasn't the first one it

1722
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:09,600
wasn't the last one that completely

1723
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:13,440
disappeared but in it it was not a uh

1724
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:15,440
the weather was not harsh uh it was

1725
01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:18,000
actually a pretty nice day out

1726
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:20,800
and the last time that they had contact

1727
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:24,480
with this uh airplane was it was

1728
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:26,960
ju had just passed the

1729
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:29,840
uh alaska state border into canada was

1730
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:33,679
flying near snag canada and then

1731
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,000
completely disappeared and it's still

1732
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:38,640
within that triangle area

1733
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,440
you know what's what's bizarre is that

1734
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,120
you know a few weeks later there was a

1735
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:46,000
smaller airplane that went down in that

1736
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:48,320
area they were able to find it just fine

1737
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:51,360
but this huge massive douglas skymaster

1738
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:53,600
nothing there was a massive search and

1739
01:15:57,430 --> 01:15:56,480
rescue that was that was undertaken

1740
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:57,440
the

1741
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:01,280
uh us and canadian militaries were about

1742
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:03,040
to

1743
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:05,120
have a joint exercise and play some war

1744
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:06,880
games and all that they canceled that

1745
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:08,640
and so you basically had

1746
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:09,679
a couple of

1747
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:11,600
troops right us troops looking for these

1748
01:16:16,550 --> 01:16:13,440
guys right a couple of thousand uh from

1749
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,560
the us and and canadian forces yes

1750
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,320
yeah yeah thousands of guys

1751
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:20,640
thousands and thousands of man-hours

1752
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:21,600
uh

1753
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,400
was

1754
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:24,960
really strange is that they caught some

1755
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:27,600
radio chatter it was very muddled they

1756
01:16:32,830 --> 01:16:30,400
couldn't really discern uh you know what

1757
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:32,840
it was and this was you know shortly

1758
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:36,000
thereafter and they believe that it was

1759
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:36,880
you know

1760
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:38,480
well some people suspect that it was

1761
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,320
from the uh the crew of the of the

1762
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,320
skymaster they could not pinpoint its

1763
01:16:47,830 --> 01:16:45,199
location uh or triangulated to discover

1764
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:47,840
you know where exactly it had come from

1765
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:49,520
but those that believe that this that

1766
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:52,800
the airplane disappeared into a portal

1767
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:55,840
and i actually have this theory along

1768
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:00,159
with my uh with my uh shadow people uh

1769
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:03,440
uh research in that

1770
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:05,600
when you when something disappears into

1771
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:06,960
a portal

1772
01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:09,920
you can still catch some sound from that

1773
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:11,840
portal because the sound actually

1774
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,159
resonates at a different frequency than

1775
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,920
the frequency that we see with our eyes

1776
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:17,520
so that you know something from another

1777
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:18,719
dimension

1778
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,360
we may see a glimpse of it and it's gone

1779
01:17:25,030 --> 01:17:23,199
but the sound of it we could still hear

1780
01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:25,040
because it's on a different wavelength a

1781
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,719
different frequency and so that could

1782
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:28,880
possibly be what happened is

1783
01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:31,440
the skymaster disappeared

1784
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:33,120
and we were still able to hear it

1785
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,040
briefly now jimmy i'm going to throw

1786
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:37,440
something else out at you here so you

1787
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:38,880
know the question then becomes if it

1788
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,120
disappeared through a portal

1789
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:43,600
where exactly did it go

1790
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:46,080
it's got to go somewhere it has to go

1791
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,400
somewhere and so something that i've

1792
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:50,000
thrown out here in this book alaska's

1793
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:51,760
mysterious triangle

1794
01:17:58,870 --> 01:17:55,840
is let's say it went uh into another

1795
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,880
point in time let's say it you know just

1796
01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:00,960
for instance it went 500 years into the

1797
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,000
past

1798
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:04,560
well think about alaska 500 years ago

1799
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:05,520
who's there

1800
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,360
you have the native tribes

1801
01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:09,600
what would a native tribesmen the the

1802
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:11,840
inuit that are up there if they saw a

1803
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:14,080
douglas sky master screaming across the

1804
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:16,560
sky what are they gonna think it is it's

1805
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:19,199
it's it's the gods

1806
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:20,640
it's the gods well you have a lot of

1807
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:22,960
thunderbird legends the thunderbirds

1808
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:26,000
sure yeah yeah yeah dragon

1809
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:27,120
yeah yeah

1810
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:28,480
what if some of these thunderbird

1811
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:30,480
sightings and stories and legends are

1812
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,800
actually some of these missing airplanes

1813
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,320
that have come through that portal that

1814
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,880
was spawned off by the vortices in the

1815
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,320
alaska triangle

1816
01:18:43,030 --> 01:18:41,280
it might have landed in shangri-la

1817
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,040
there you go

1818
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:45,840
um you know what i just uh i i don't

1819
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,560
want to uh get off of the subject

1820
01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:50,560
but i want to i want to throw something

1821
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:52,840
out there before i forget this the other

1822
01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:54,719
night

1823
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:56,719
you know flicking you know whatever

1824
01:19:01,270 --> 01:18:59,280
amazon you know netflix

1825
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:01,280
suggestions pop up

1826
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:04,239
and this movie pops up called

1827
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:07,360
the lost horizon

1828
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:11,930
and why would this be in like 1952

1829
01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:13,360
[Music]

1830
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:14,480
and

1831
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:19,199
uh an airplane

1832
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:20,000
uh

1833
01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:23,280
gets hijacked and mysteriously

1834
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:25,280
disappears

1835
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:26,800
and lands

1836
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:28,560
in another time

1837
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:30,640
in shangri-la

1838
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:33,520
i'm like oh i'm down for this oh i'm i'm

1839
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:36,480
way down so i watch the whole thing

1840
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:37,920
and uh

1841
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:39,520
lee uh

1842
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,280
uh no no not lee remick anyway

1843
01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:45,360
uh i'll come back to that

1844
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:47,840
it turned out it was a fantastic movie

1845
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:50,560
by the way i watched the entire thing

1846
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:51,520
uh

1847
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:53,920
the the lost horizon i highly recommend

1848
01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:56,159
it i'd never heard of the movie

1849
01:20:02,390 --> 01:19:59,360
it turned out to be it's it's drama it's

1850
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:02,400
science fiction it's a little uh

1851
01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:05,280
uh chinese uh

1852
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,440
revolution right a little of that going

1853
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:09,440
on and of course

1854
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:15,590
broadway musical

1855
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:17,199
i'm not making this up i'm not making

1856
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:19,760
this up i'm not making this up so you

1857
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:21,040
know they're going through and they're

1858
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,400
doing this thing

1859
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,480
and it's all drama

1860
01:20:28,149 --> 01:20:26,400
and then there was like a marriage or a

1861
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:28,159
baby was born

1862
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:30,400
and they're having this parade and all

1863
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:34,560
of a sudden everybody breaks into song

1864
01:20:39,189 --> 01:20:36,239
and i was like

1865
01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:39,199
we've got a time travel vortex

1866
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,800
disappearing plane into the lost city of

1867
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:44,480
shangri-la

1868
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:47,760
broadway musical so there you go

1869
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:50,639
the lost horizon and i highly recommend

1870
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,000
it okay so but but back to this

1871
01:20:58,070 --> 01:20:56,400
they have to if

1872
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:58,080
physically

1873
01:21:02,149 --> 01:21:00,719
the plane and the people are are still

1874
01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:02,159
there they haven't disappeared matter

1875
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,159
doesn't go anywhere

1876
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:06,159
right and that's that's that's physics

1877
01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:07,600
that's science

1878
01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:08,480
so

1879
01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:11,280
in going into a portal you've got to

1880
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:13,520
come out and and go somewhere on the

1881
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:15,280
other side whether it's a different time

1882
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:16,480
or certainly

1883
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:19,040
another place right

1884
01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:20,239
exactly yeah

1885
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:22,239
the matter can't disappear you know it

1886
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:24,800
has to at least change into

1887
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:26,560
something else it has to go somewhere

1888
01:21:30,709 --> 01:21:28,719
and so that's that's the big question

1889
01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:30,719
where did it go so did it go to another

1890
01:21:35,430 --> 01:21:33,120
place in time did it go to another

1891
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:35,440
dimension

1892
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:38,239
did it go to some other point in the

1893
01:21:41,750 --> 01:21:39,760
universe was there a you know was there

1894
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,760
a wormhole suddenly spawned off and they

1895
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:44,159
ended up somewhere else in the universe

1896
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:45,920
we don't know at this point now what

1897
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:48,560
about uh the other stuff that is is

1898
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:52,719
commonly uh tied to portals and and for

1899
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:53,760
texas

1900
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:55,360
uh bigfoot

1901
01:22:00,550 --> 01:21:58,239
uh and different uh paranormal activity

1902
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:00,560
do we have that in the alaska triangle

1903
01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:03,040
oh yeah there there are uh many many

1904
01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:06,159
reports of sasquatch bigfoot hairy man

1905
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:08,639
uh the port chatham harry man is

1906
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:09,760
extremely

1907
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:11,120
famous

1908
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:13,840
up there a lot of bigfoot in sasquatch

1909
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,440
sightings you have the lake iliamna

1910
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:19,120
monster which is basically like the loch

1911
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,000
ness monster of of the north uh it's

1912
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:24,080
kind of funny because it actually pre

1913
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:26,000
the sightings of it predate loch ness

1914
01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:28,719
but you know there you have it uh so

1915
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:31,120
yeah you have a lot of these interesting

1916
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:33,440
creature sightings there's the the otter

1917
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,480
man

1918
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:36,719
which is you know another it's it's a

1919
01:22:41,430 --> 01:22:39,199
native american legend but you know a

1920
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:41,440
similar type of cryptid so you do have a

1921
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:43,360
lot of these different strange creature

1922
01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:46,800
sightings uh you have you know ancient

1923
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,159
uh you know inuit legends of giants in

1924
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:52,159
the area as well and so i have a nice

1925
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:54,960
little section in the book on giant lore

1926
01:22:59,030 --> 01:22:57,440
which is quite interesting so yeah you

1927
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:59,040
have a lot of these sightings of these

1928
01:23:01,669 --> 01:23:00,719
different interesting creatures up there

1929
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,679
as well

1930
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,840
with uh all the time that you have spent

1931
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:05,679
up there uh

1932
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:07,760
what have uh what have you perch

1933
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:10,000
personally witnessed have you big foot

1934
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:13,199
prints have you had any sightings

1935
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:14,960
yeah when i was stationed up there that

1936
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:18,000
wasn't something that i was uh you know

1937
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:21,040
really seeking the the uh the sasquatch

1938
01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:24,480
and what have you so my experience is

1939
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:25,679
really

1940
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:30,239
jimmy as i i witnessed uh shadow

1941
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:33,120
activity up in alaska

1942
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:36,639
go figure that out right do tell detail

1943
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:39,120
well so look look look there's a there's

1944
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:41,600
another part of alaska uh

1945
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:44,960
that i really enjoy and that is a lot of

1946
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:48,560
the people in alaska if you're not uh

1947
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:50,960
alaskan right

1948
01:23:55,270 --> 01:23:53,199
you're you're hiding from something

1949
01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:55,280
right

1950
01:24:01,910 --> 01:23:59,120
so there's a lot of people up there that

1951
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:01,920
keep to themselves they want to be alone

1952
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:04,400
they don't want to be seen

1953
01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:06,560
and you do that for extended periods of

1954
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:07,760
time

1955
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:11,360
long winters right weird sun patterns

1956
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:12,960
and day patterns

1957
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:14,000
and the next thing you know your

1958
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:16,880
imagination is going a little bit whack

1959
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:19,520
and you're also inviting in paranormal

1960
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:21,440
activity and i would think that

1961
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:24,239
everything goes hand in hand

1962
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:25,840
yeah yeah it really does and you're

1963
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:27,840
right people do go up there to get away

1964
01:24:32,229 --> 01:24:29,920
you know would be the uh

1965
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:32,239
first thing to get away from you know

1966
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:33,840
whether it's it's family that your

1967
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:36,239
previous life yeah a lot of people go up

1968
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:38,320
there to alaska to just get away or you

1969
01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:40,400
know they might have a an idea of i'm

1970
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:43,760
gonna i'm gonna hike alaska for the year

1971
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:45,440
and live off the land

1972
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:47,199
people will try to do that and and some

1973
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:49,679
of those people just legitimately go

1974
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:50,800
missing maybe

1975
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,320
it happens maybe they got eaten by a

1976
01:24:57,270 --> 01:24:54,320
bear you know and they're never found

1977
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:57,280
again so you have legit

1978
01:25:02,310 --> 01:24:59,280
disappearances like that other than you

1979
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:02,320
know the supernatural ones but um

1980
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:05,120
but yeah i had the uh

1981
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:07,120
you know we've talked extensively about

1982
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:09,120
my my shadow experiences but when i was

1983
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:10,719
up there in alaska the alaska command

1984
01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:12,239
building where i spent two of my three

1985
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,920
years we

1986
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:15,760
were stationed in the basement of that

1987
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:17,040
building

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01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:20,159
which was a high secure top secret uh

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01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:21,679
area

1990
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:23,440
and you know it was one of those places

1991
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:25,280
that during the winter time with how

1992
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:27,360
little sunlight you get if i didn't go

1993
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:30,159
out during lunch that day i did not see

1994
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,560
the sun because everything's just all

1995
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:34,320
boarded up and

1996
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:35,520
that

1997
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:40,400
would frequently see

1998
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:42,560
shadows just you know darting down a

1999
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:44,400
hallway it was most of it was in the

2000
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:46,239
back office area but we would see them

2001
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:48,000
out by the server racks there was also

2002
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:50,320
this you know little room with some old

2003
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:52,960
equipment you know way in the back we'd

2004
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:55,520
see them back there and it was an area

2005
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:56,880
that would get

2006
01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:59,199
you know you'd get really creeped out

2007
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:01,679
um especially where where we were at in

2008
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:03,440
the back offices because you know the

2009
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:06,080
lighting was was not very good back

2010
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:09,199
there uh and it just you know you would

2011
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,880
sense it and you'd feel it something's

2012
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:12,800
you know coming near you your

2013
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:14,320
hair would raise in the back you're not

2014
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:16,080
like okay something's nearby and then

2015
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:17,600
all of a sudden you you'd see something

2016
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:18,880
dart down the hall they're almost gonna

2017
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:20,480
peek around the corner

2018
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,280
uh very very creepy area and so there

2019
01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:25,520
are all these legends and stories about

2020
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,920
how the building was uh you know

2021
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:29,920
supposed to have once been a hospital

2022
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:32,480
and uh we were in the morgue area and

2023
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,880
where we had our server racks and patch

2024
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:36,480
panels had been where the coolers were

2025
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,960
at which made sense for

2026
01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:41,280
you know what we were witnessing but in

2027
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:43,679
doing their research for

2028
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:45,440
this book and of course i want to tell

2029
01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:47,120
that story it was once the hospital we

2030
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:49,679
were in the morgue i come to find out it

2031
01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:52,000
was never a hospital the building was

2032
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,480
always used for command so then it's

2033
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:56,480
like okay what are we what did we

2034
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:58,480
actually witness down there what did we

2035
01:27:03,750 --> 01:26:59,280
see

2036
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:03,760
entities down there yeah and you were

2037
01:27:09,189 --> 01:27:06,560
convinced it was the morgue makes sense

2038
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:09,199
right okay so you've kind of resolved

2039
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:12,320
that in your own mind it explains things

2040
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,159
but it wasn't a morgue

2041
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:16,639
but it wasn't 25 years later discovering

2042
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:18,159
okay it wasn't a morgue so what did we

2043
01:27:21,750 --> 01:27:19,920
witness and so that's you know i started

2044
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:21,760
going down the rabbit hole of

2045
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,080
okay you know are we witnessing

2046
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:26,480
um are we witnessing some sort of you

2047
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:28,239
know time slip maybe because you know

2048
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:29,600
that can you

2049
01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:31,679
that can be one of the manifestations of

2050
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:33,920
of the shadows is maybe we're seeing

2051
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:35,840
personnel from the past or personnel

2052
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:38,480
from the future and is you know bleeding

2053
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:42,080
over into our place in space time so uh

2054
01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:43,760
yeah so i postulate some different ideas

2055
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:45,199
in the book as to what we actually

2056
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:47,199
witnessed down there but uh did it yeah

2057
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:48,800
it was it was fascinating did it ever

2058
01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:50,800
get intimidating or was it just like

2059
01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:52,000
casual

2060
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:53,840
cast well it would it would creep you

2061
01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:55,360
out so

2062
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,120
like during the uh the holiday seasons

2063
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:01,040
we would split the shop

2064
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:03,520
in half so half the personnel would uh

2065
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:04,960
take christmas week off and the other

2066
01:28:09,669 --> 01:28:07,679
half would take uh new year's week off

2067
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:09,679
and so there was just a handful of

2068
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:12,400
people down there and so when that would

2069
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:14,000
happen when you're just kind of alone

2070
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:15,360
back there in the corner and i was a

2071
01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:17,600
young guy at the time and all of a

2072
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:18,960
sudden this

2073
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:21,440
would start happening i i would just

2074
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:23,520
kind of venture out you know go grab a

2075
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:25,679
drink go into the the comp center area

2076
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:26,960
where a couple other guys were hanging

2077
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:28,719
out and just start chatting because it's

2078
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:30,159
like yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna

2079
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,639
scoot out of here for right now and uh

2080
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:34,880
what kind of uh

2081
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:36,480
what kind of work were you guys actually

2082
01:28:41,910 --> 01:28:38,320
doing there

2083
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,920
so this was uh i was a part of uh

2084
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:43,600
worldwide military command control

2085
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:45,040
systems at that time that was called

2086
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:48,320
wemix we later became gccs global

2087
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:50,880
command communications system so we were

2088
01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:53,679
basically a communications hub for top

2089
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:55,679
secret messages

2090
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:57,920
back and forth through uh

2091
01:29:01,430 --> 01:29:00,639
basically funneling messages for command

2092
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:01,440
uh

2093
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:03,360
you know basically either maneuvers

2094
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,000
running exercises that sort of thing um

2095
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,880
so we and it was joint operations as

2096
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,239
well so there were times that we had to

2097
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:12,880
go up to fort wayne wright in the

2098
01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:14,800
fairbanks area we had

2099
01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:16,000
different machines up there and what

2100
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:17,840
have you um

2101
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,760
did some joint exercises down in for

2102
01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:21,360
polk louisiana so we did a temporary

2103
01:29:26,390 --> 01:29:22,960
duty down there

2104
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,400
and so uh we were in the same facility

2105
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:27,600
with the

2106
01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:32,719
communications so it's a pretty and what

2107
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:35,199
i'm getting at here is a pretty serious

2108
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:37,440
atmosphere the people that are you are

2109
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:38,800
working with

2110
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:41,520
uh intelligent serious

2111
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:43,520
right this and

2112
01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:45,840
and you don't have any whack jobs you

2113
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:48,560
know this isn't the motor pool right

2114
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:49,679
this is

2115
01:29:52,550 --> 01:29:51,679
right

2116
01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:52,560
and

2117
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:56,159
very serious people

2118
01:30:01,990 --> 01:29:59,760
are seeing paranormal activity how do

2119
01:30:04,709 --> 01:30:02,000
very serious people talk about this you

2120
01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:04,719
guys talk about it in the open

2121
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:06,639
i mean it was one of those it was kind

2122
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:09,920
of like water cooler talk you know um

2123
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,400
like when

2124
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:15,199
when my supervisor first uh

2125
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:16,960
noticed that i noticed something you

2126
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:18,960
know we're just kind of sitting down

2127
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:21,280
talking chatting and i saw something out

2128
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:24,000
of the corner of my eye uh moved down

2129
01:30:28,390 --> 01:30:26,639
the hallway from his office and he kind

2130
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:28,400
of looks at me it's just like yeah that

2131
01:30:32,830 --> 01:30:30,639
happens here

2132
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:32,840
man

2133
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:35,840
right uh did you see that i did okay

2134
01:30:41,189 --> 01:30:39,120
moving on right right right wow let's

2135
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:41,199
take our break this is fade to black

2136
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:43,280
tonight mike ricksecker is here we are

2137
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:45,760
talking about the alaska triangle now

2138
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:47,520
when we come back after the break

2139
01:30:52,390 --> 01:30:50,480
obviously you know where i'm going next

2140
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:52,400
we're going to talk pyramids

2141
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:54,000
this is fade to black i'm your host

2142
01:30:57,910 --> 01:30:55,600
jimmy church mike rick sucker on the

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hi

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i'm reese evans you're listening to

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jimmy church this is revolution the

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight

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mike ricksecker is with us

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and i've got to say we've got the best

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moderators

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the best

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so mike check this out uh zenzabel one

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of our moderators in one of the chat

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rooms uh just let me know that the area

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of the alaskan triangle

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is 186

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883 square miles

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yeah it's a pretty big chunk of land i

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knew it was in the hundreds of thousands

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thanks for looking that up that zen's a

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bill

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uh now okay

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so much talk

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and and research has gone in

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uh

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two

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pyramids in alaska now there i look at

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this from two ways and i can't wait to

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uh to get your input on this

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and and what you have found out

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first off it's big it's a big place

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second it's covered in snow

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and

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third if we go back uh

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into deep time

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uh there was probably a time when there

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wasn't snow

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and there could have been a different

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culture that was living there and there

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could have been a very significant land

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bridge

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uh

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and through plate tectonics and things

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it was probably a completely different

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place

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but

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this

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alaskan pyramid

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is something that can't be ignored can

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it

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pyramid or the black pyramid goes by a

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couple of different names

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um and basically this this came about

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this discovery uh back in 1993 china was

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doing some nuclear testing

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and you know those shockwaves emanated

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thousands of miles outward and so

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during this time in alaska

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you had the um

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basically the the seismic

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activity come from the shock waves and

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that's where

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they had

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basically detected under what was then

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mount mckinley they now call it mount

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denali

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this massive pyramid that's uh you know

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more than twice the size of the giza

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pyramid by what they're able to to

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measure

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and so this report aired on anchorage

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channel 13 at that time

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and that was like the only time it was

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ever aired

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there was a guy doug munchler he was in

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the army

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working at fort richardson at the time

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which is right there next to el madorf

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uh air force base in fact they've

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combined the two now so it's joint base

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elmendorf richardson

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uh and you know he wanted to know more

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about this report went down to the

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station

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because he you know the report wasn't

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airing on any other uh affiliate and and

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to be clear

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i'm going to interrupt uh sure he saw it

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on television he saw it with

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right he sees it with his own eyes he

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didn't hear about the report he saw it

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and then ventures down to channel 13.

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yep yep ventured down to channel 13

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after seeing it

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uh and he had contacted you know some

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others like i guess he had talked to his

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01:39:57,910 --> 01:39:56,800
dad hey did you see the reporters like

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no i wasn't watching that night or

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whatever it was

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um but so he ventured down there to get

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you know more information on the report

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they completely denied ever even airing

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it they said no we didn't error segment

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on that completely denied it

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on his way out of the building one of

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the younger staff members pulled him

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aside and said yeah actually we did air

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but there were a couple of guys in here

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so you're talking were these the men in

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black done done done

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[Laughter]

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and and now we've got a mystery

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right here we go

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yeah yeah now we have a mystery other

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people have come forward now

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linda mullen house website the earth

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01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:41,280
files has a lot of this information he

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and

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doug shared the information with her

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when she published this information

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other people started coming forward with

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with additional information on

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01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:54,400
uh on this pyramid that's there and uh

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01:40:58,629 --> 01:40:56,000
you know there's

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01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:58,639
some interesting stories about uh you

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know that there's an actual you know

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facility that's there that's you know

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run by the government

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that there are uh you know reports of

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extraterrestrials down there one of the

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drawings it kind of creeps me out one of

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the trines of these extraterrestrials

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which i guess was a remote viewing

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01:41:19,109 --> 01:41:16,639
session i look at it and it's like that

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is eerily familiar because it kind of

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looks like me so that that kind of

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creeps me out a little bit

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um so yeah it's so it's extremely

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01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:27,840
interesting that um

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01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:30,080
because you know the the information is

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01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:32,719
is kind of cryptic uh you know it's it's

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01:41:37,270 --> 01:41:34,800
not something that we can you know point

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01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:37,280
a camera and say there it is like we can

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01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:39,440
with the giza pyramids and so you know

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we have all of this you know testimony

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coming forth now for the alaska triangle

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01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:46,159
television show they flew up there uh to

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01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:47,520
take a look to see if they could

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01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:48,400
actually

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01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:50,080
you know spot this thing but again it's

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01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:51,600
it's under the mountain so how would you

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01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:54,400
see it right right right right

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01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:57,600
let me back up a step because uh this

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01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:59,360
this is where for me it gets really

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01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:00,480
interesting

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01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:04,880
but the progenator of this going back to

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the

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01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:07,840
channel 13

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01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:10,719
news segment on this the progeny the

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01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:14,239
origin of this was from the military

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01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:16,800
this wasn't a civilian discovery

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01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:19,840
this was what channel 13 was reporting

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01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:22,159
on this military discovery of the

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01:42:25,830 --> 01:42:24,320
seismic activity and the discovery of

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01:42:28,229 --> 01:42:25,840
this pyramid

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01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:28,239
right exactly so this was coming from

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01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:29,679
the military

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01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:31,920
and they they had shared the

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01:42:37,189 --> 01:42:35,119
the information on air on on a public

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01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:37,199
television station so

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01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:40,400
um so somebody caught wind of that and

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01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:42,400
decided to go ahead and confiscate and

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01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:43,920
cover it up you know go figure that a

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01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:45,440
government cover-up

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01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:46,639
never happens

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01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:50,239
um

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01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:52,080
but but yeah so for the television show

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01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:53,600
they flew up there

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01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:56,080
and while they didn't you know spot hey

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01:43:01,990 --> 01:42:57,119
there's the

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01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:02,000
discover uh was an abandoned road an

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01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:05,760
abandoned runway uh a clearing that had

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01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:09,679
definitive uh geometric proportions

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01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:12,000
you know so there had been absolutely

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01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:14,320
human activity up there at some point

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01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:17,360
and and how far away is this from the

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01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:19,840
joint base

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01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,669
i you know i don't

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01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:27,840
offhand i do not know how far mckinley

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01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:29,920
is from from elmendorf and fort

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01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:31,760
richardson well let's find so maybe

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01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:32,560
maybe

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01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:33,920
somebody down there in the chat can look

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01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:35,360
that one up

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01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:39,600
i i have the technology okay so uh i

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01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:41,600
continue though uh what did you guys

2431
01:43:45,510 --> 01:43:43,360
discover besides

2432
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:45,520
uh this other stuff and there were

2433
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:49,280
reports maybe of uh of the sphinx

2434
01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:51,840
yeah the sphinx is kind of uh is kind of

2435
01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:54,080
interesting you know there's basically

2436
01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:57,280
it's a rock structure that is

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01:44:02,390 --> 01:43:59,440
i mean it's so ancient i mean there are

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01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:02,400
people that make a case for it that um

2439
01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:05,040
you know that it could just be a natural

2440
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:07,119
rock formation but you can make a case

2441
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:09,199
for it as well that no this was carved

2442
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:12,159
by human hands and over time you know

2443
01:44:15,189 --> 01:44:13,280
it's become

2444
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:15,199
basically in disrepair you know you

2445
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:16,800
think about you know the the great

2446
01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:19,520
sphinx that we have today over thousands

2447
01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:21,119
of years has been repaired many many

2448
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:22,719
times it's been able to keep you know

2449
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:24,400
somewhat of its shape and form but if

2450
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:27,280
something's been neglected uh for you

2451
01:44:30,790 --> 01:44:29,199
know an even longer period of time of

2452
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:30,800
course it would become extremely

2453
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,320
disheveled so

2454
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:34,320
um so yeah so you have this sphinx

2455
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:36,480
formation there which yeah it's it's

2456
01:44:39,669 --> 01:44:37,280
very

2457
01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:39,679
eerily familiar of okay you have a

2458
01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:41,360
pyramid you have a sphinx and like you

2459
01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:42,880
were talking about earlier jimmy you

2460
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:44,400
know when it comes to

2461
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:47,280
uh plate tectonics continental drift you

2462
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,880
know alaska is not where it it always

2463
01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:52,800
had been you know it has moved around

2464
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:55,760
the globe all of these land masses have

2465
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:57,360
so you know it's

2466
01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:00,000
the the earth thousands of years ago is

2467
01:45:03,229 --> 01:45:01,600
going to be you know very different than

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01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:03,239
it is today

2469
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:05,360
250 miles

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01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:09,360
um

2471
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:10,560
the

2472
01:45:14,950 --> 01:45:12,960
here we go now

2473
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:14,960
i want to take uh

2474
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,040
a look at

2475
01:45:22,390 --> 01:45:19,920
uh i want to see how far away this is

2476
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:22,400
from

2477
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:24,320
denali

2478
01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:27,040
okay um wow it comes up in a google

2479
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:30,480
search by the way

2480
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:32,639
yeah you can you can actually look for

2481
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:35,600
the alaska black pyramid um

2482
01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:36,960
when

2483
01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:42,320
that uh one of the first questions i had

2484
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,360
and certainly linda uh points a lot of

2485
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:47,760
this out that we are talking about a

2486
01:45:50,709 --> 01:45:49,679
pretty good chunk of time here that it

2487
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:50,719
could be

2488
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:52,800
a hundred million years old these

2489
01:45:59,109 --> 01:45:56,000
numbers have been thrown around

2490
01:46:01,990 --> 01:45:59,119
yeah the numbers are massive um you know

2491
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:02,000
you you take a look at and people are

2492
01:46:05,270 --> 01:46:03,440
you know will question that well how can

2493
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:05,280
you talk about 100 you know million

2494
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:06,960
years old because you know humans are

2495
01:46:12,229 --> 01:46:09,280
supposedly only been around for you know

2496
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:12,239
200 000 years old but then you look at

2497
01:46:15,590 --> 01:46:13,760
you know some of these out of place

2498
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:15,600
artifacts that we have around the world

2499
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:17,360
like the london hammer now that was

2500
01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:20,159
discovered in texas not alaska but uh

2501
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:22,480
you know it's embedded it's it's a it's

2502
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:25,840
a hammer that is embedded in rock and

2503
01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:28,400
the handle has started to turn to coal

2504
01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:30,719
it wouldn't handle and you know the

2505
01:46:35,030 --> 01:46:32,639
number of years it would take for a

2506
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:35,040
wooden handle to start to turn to coal

2507
01:46:39,910 --> 01:46:37,600
numbers in the 400 millions

2508
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:39,920
so if you're talking you know 100 you

2509
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:42,480
know if human existence dates back that

2510
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:44,320
far 400 million years because you have

2511
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:45,679
this hammer that's you know kind of

2512
01:46:50,550 --> 01:46:47,040
showing that

2513
01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:50,560
a pyramid at 100 million years starts to

2514
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:52,159
uh starts to be a little bit more

2515
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:53,199
realistic

2516
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:56,880
and uh and what about when uh

2517
01:47:00,390 --> 01:46:59,199
the talks started to come about the

2518
01:47:01,669 --> 01:47:00,400
sphinx

2519
01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:01,679
now we're talking about a direct

2520
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:03,520
correlation to what may be happening

2521
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:06,400
over in cairo and giza

2522
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:08,719
does this enter into

2523
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:11,119
uh your way of thinking

2524
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:13,040
absolutely um

2525
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:14,800
the the last chapter i have in the book

2526
01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:16,719
is called other connections and so i

2527
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:20,239
actually draw those connections from

2528
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:21,520
alaska

2529
01:47:27,109 --> 01:47:25,040
to antarctica also to egypt because you

2530
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:27,119
have some of these uh

2531
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:29,840
these large pyramidal type structures

2532
01:47:33,669 --> 01:47:32,320
down in antarctica as well

2533
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:33,679
uh they're

2534
01:47:38,390 --> 01:47:35,679
much much harder to get to but you know

2535
01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:38,400
we have aerial photography of

2536
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:40,000
it it looks

2537
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:42,080
basically like your black pyramid just

2538
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:42,880
uh

2539
01:47:46,629 --> 01:47:44,480
you know instead of underground there it

2540
01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:46,639
is you know out in the open uh there

2541
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:48,639
have even been uh you know some aerial

2542
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:50,560
photography of what looks like you know

2543
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:52,080
very long

2544
01:47:56,550 --> 01:47:54,719
in tall walls uh that could have been

2545
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:56,560
you know perhaps fortifications for some

2546
01:48:01,030 --> 01:47:59,760
sort of city down there in antarctica so

2547
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:01,040
if you're having

2548
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:03,040
these pyramids in

2549
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:05,520
uh you know in egypt

2550
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:08,159
alaska antarctica well now you're having

2551
01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:10,880
a worldwide culture that expanded

2552
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:12,639
extremely far

2553
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:13,760
and

2554
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,440
i'm gonna throw out the a word there's

2555
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:17,679
only you know one culture i can think of

2556
01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:20,080
from antiquity that would have that kind

2557
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:21,600
of reach and that would be atlantis

2558
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:24,080
right right right now dropping the a

2559
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:25,920
word not aliens

2560
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:26,639
yeah

2561
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:27,840
atlantis

2562
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:30,400
but there's another when we

2563
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:32,320
uh and linda points this out in her

2564
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:34,320
research and i know that you've uh

2565
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:36,000
talked about this too but

2566
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:38,800
a hundred million years ago antarctica

2567
01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:41,679
probably wasn't even where it is now

2568
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:43,360
no right

2569
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:46,800
and it's the same thing with alaska and

2570
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:48,880
and the rest of the continents

2571
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:50,639
uh around the world things were in a

2572
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:51,920
different place

2573
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:54,800
they were and and these land masses all

2574
01:49:00,629 --> 01:48:57,840
move at different speeds too so national

2575
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:00,639
geographic uh just a few years back

2576
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:03,280
posted an article about australia moving

2577
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:06,480
too quickly that gps couldn't keep up

2578
01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:07,199
so

2579
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:09,280
you know it and that's a modern article

2580
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:10,400
about

2581
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:12,320
a continent that we're very familiar

2582
01:49:17,350 --> 01:49:14,400
with so yeah where exactly was

2583
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:17,360
antarctica where exactly was alaska a

2584
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:18,880
hundred million years ago definitely not

2585
01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:21,280
where it is now they could be very you

2586
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:24,159
know warmer climates uh more easily

2587
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:27,360
accessible to to cultures at that time

2588
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:31,760
absolutely now what about channel 13 um

2589
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:34,080
did the did the tape ever surface did

2590
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:36,719
other uh people come forward did anybody

2591
01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:38,159
else speak about

2592
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:40,639
who confiscated these tapes and were

2593
01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:43,520
they told to stay quiet about it

2594
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:45,199
yeah um you know other people came

2595
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:48,000
forward and gave information to to linda

2596
01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:50,800
about what they had discovered about the

2597
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:52,239
uh uh

2598
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:54,080
the black pyramid but as far as the

2599
01:49:57,990 --> 01:49:56,400
tapes the tapes are

2600
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:58,000
have gone missing that nobody knows

2601
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:00,080
whatever happened to those tapes now has

2602
01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:03,360
the military ever spoke about having a

2603
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:06,400
base in that area and if they did why

2604
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:08,880
did they have it was it because of

2605
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,199
uh a vortice uh of some kind of vortex

2606
01:50:17,350 --> 01:50:15,920
some kind of activity going on and the

2607
01:50:19,270 --> 01:50:17,360
reason to have

2608
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:19,280
something there to investigate and to

2609
01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:20,480
research

2610
01:50:24,950 --> 01:50:22,320
yeah the the military has not said that

2611
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:24,960
they've had a a base or anything like

2612
01:50:31,510 --> 01:50:28,800
that in that area now they've had

2613
01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:31,520
across alaska on all kinds of bases you

2614
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:33,280
know throughout the years

2615
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:35,520
there was

2616
01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:37,840
some different you know bases on islands

2617
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:40,080
when i was up there that are no longer

2618
01:50:44,709 --> 01:50:42,000
in operation so the military will open

2619
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:44,719
and close bases from time to time um

2620
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:46,159
but for my knowledge no they didn't have

2621
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:48,320
a base there but obviously they did have

2622
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,679
something there because you have an

2623
01:50:52,870 --> 01:50:51,520
abandoned road abandoned airstrip

2624
01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:52,880
there's definitely something there but

2625
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:54,880
they haven't admitted as such and

2626
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:57,520
wendell stevens uh

2627
01:51:00,870 --> 01:50:58,960
going back

2628
01:51:04,229 --> 01:51:00,880
uh now we can talk about all of this

2629
01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:04,239
modern stuff about alaska today for sure

2630
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:07,119
but wendell stevens talks uh uh talked

2631
01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:08,960
about he's no longer with us

2632
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:11,440
about his time in the air force

2633
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:14,480
and and going up and landing on the ice

2634
01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:16,320
where there were craft

2635
01:51:21,910 --> 01:51:18,719
on the ice and some of them

2636
01:51:24,550 --> 01:51:21,920
uh with uh uh uh

2637
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:24,560
possibly getting water

2638
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:27,280
and drilling into the ice and extracting

2639
01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:29,520
stuff uh from underneath the ice where

2640
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:31,119
they filmed it

2641
01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:32,400
and uh

2642
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:35,119
and then and then came back and would

2643
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:37,679
hand off the film canisters you know to

2644
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:39,599
the mysterious guys waiting for them

2645
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:41,040
when they landed

2646
01:51:45,589 --> 01:51:43,119
and he doesn't know where the film went

2647
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:45,599
from there but this type of activity has

2648
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:48,639
been going on with the military for for

2649
01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:50,880
decades

2650
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:53,040
yeah absolutely that's uh you know modus

2651
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:55,040
operandi really for the for the military

2652
01:51:58,149 --> 01:51:56,480
yeah where did those tapes go where did

2653
01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:58,159
those films go and they're in a vault

2654
01:52:03,430 --> 01:52:00,719
somewhere somebody has them uh

2655
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:03,440
but uh yeah

2656
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:04,960
at some point some of that information

2657
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,520
will be will be leaked out i think we'll

2658
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:09,840
we'll get some inkling as to what has

2659
01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:12,159
happened up there but yeah that's you

2660
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:14,960
know that is very uh status quo for for

2661
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:16,239
the military you know let's hide

2662
01:52:20,870 --> 01:52:18,000
everything now do you do you think that

2663
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:20,880
this pyramid exists

2664
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:22,560
yeah that's the loaded question i

2665
01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:25,040
believe something's there you know i i

2666
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:26,719
don't know if it's as big because i mean

2667
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:29,840
we're going off at the seismic data

2668
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,760
as to how big it is

2669
01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:33,599
and

2670
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:36,000
that uh those readings i mean we're

2671
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:37,920
talking early 90s you know we've

2672
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:40,000
developed better technology since

2673
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:41,920
since then that would better

2674
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:44,560
size up exactly what was detected so i

2675
01:52:48,070 --> 01:52:46,159
believe something's there i just don't

2676
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:48,080
know if it's as big as you know what is

2677
01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:50,800
claimed if it is that big uh that's

2678
01:52:56,870 --> 01:52:55,520
amazing now is is the pyramid under

2679
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:56,880
earth

2680
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:00,239
or is it under ice and snow

2681
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:03,280
it would be under rock yeah underwater

2682
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:05,040
yeah because it's under it's supposed to

2683
01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:06,960
be under mount denali so under the

2684
01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:07,920
mountain

2685
01:53:11,109 --> 01:53:10,080
right it's not hidden it's it's nothing

2686
01:53:13,430 --> 01:53:11,119
that can be

2687
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:13,440
you know melted is what i'm getting at

2688
01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:15,280
no it wouldn't be able to be melted so

2689
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:17,679
if you think about that that you know a

2690
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:20,320
basically a mountain has grown over

2691
01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:21,520
top of it

2692
01:53:25,109 --> 01:53:23,440
um you know how many hundreds of

2693
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:25,119
millions of years would it take to do

2694
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:27,760
that so the aging of it you know if this

2695
01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:29,920
is over 100 million years old that that

2696
01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:31,840
makes some sense because you have these

2697
01:53:35,669 --> 01:53:34,000
you know large rock structures that have

2698
01:53:37,830 --> 01:53:35,679
grown over the top of it yeah that's

2699
01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:37,840
what linda's research has always pointed

2700
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:38,639
to

2701
01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:41,520
uh and what about johnny enoch what what

2702
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:43,040
did he bring to the table about the

2703
01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:45,360
black pyramid

2704
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,880
um yeah johnny had a lot of that um

2705
01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:50,719
that kind of similar insight when it

2706
01:53:54,470 --> 01:53:53,679
came to well like with the with the et's

2707
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:54,480
and um

2708
01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:56,000
[Music]

2709
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:57,280
he kind of affirmed a lot of the

2710
01:54:02,870 --> 01:53:59,679
different things that that linda was uh

2711
01:54:04,629 --> 01:54:02,880
linda brought to the table on that so um

2712
01:54:07,030 --> 01:54:04,639
yeah johnny brings a lot of that

2713
01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:07,040
esoteric knowledge to the show which is

2714
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:08,639
absolutely fascinating so his insight

2715
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:10,800
comes uh you know really with with like

2716
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:13,520
ancient history and uh in the ufo

2717
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:14,719
sightings they had him doing a lot of

2718
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:18,320
real ufo research for the show and the

2719
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:20,239
last episode before we get to the break

2720
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:23,599
here of uh the end of season two what

2721
01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:25,760
night is the show airing

2722
01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:28,560
yeah that's uh friday nights 10 p.m on

2723
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:31,199
the travel channel or you can uh catch

2724
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:32,880
it streaming on discovery plus it'll

2725
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,880
drop that morning on discovery plus how

2726
01:54:38,550 --> 01:54:36,800
the ratings been and is there going to

2727
01:54:42,229 --> 01:54:38,560
be a season three

2728
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:42,239
been pretty good i don't know precisely

2729
01:54:48,390 --> 01:54:45,520
what the what the ratings are uh but

2730
01:54:51,109 --> 01:54:48,400
from from all accounts it's had a really

2731
01:54:53,910 --> 01:54:51,119
good reception and even more so with

2732
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:53,920
season two um you know i

2733
01:54:57,189 --> 01:54:55,520
like for the people that i heard from

2734
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:57,199
with season one you know they thought it

2735
01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:59,360
was a uh you know interesting show i had

2736
01:55:03,830 --> 01:55:00,880
a little bit of chatter but with season

2737
01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:03,840
two it's been even more so and how are

2738
01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:06,000
you guys gonna wrap up uh the last

2739
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:08,080
episode in season three

2740
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,760
or season two

2741
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:11,679
uh the last episode of season two

2742
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:14,320
they've gone out of order so i think

2743
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:17,440
this is the um

2744
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:18,480
i think i think we're doing more

2745
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:20,480
paranormal activity with this one

2746
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,679
and uh which is uh where i kind of want

2747
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:25,440
to wrap up on this because we're going

2748
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:27,360
to jump into some other stuff when we

2749
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:29,040
come back after the break

2750
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:30,239
um

2751
01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:31,040
the

2752
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:33,199
paranormal sideboard we're talking about

2753
01:55:39,669 --> 01:55:34,000
uh

2754
01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:39,679
ghost paranormal activity as opposed to

2755
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:43,199
ufos aliens e.t bigfoot cryptids

2756
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:47,280
um the paranormal side of this um

2757
01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:51,119
is that also vortexes is that energy

2758
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:51,920
and

2759
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:55,119
is is it from ancient cultures

2760
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:56,880
yeah it's definitely manifesting from

2761
01:56:02,229 --> 01:55:59,599
that energy so in these locations where

2762
01:56:04,390 --> 01:56:02,239
you where you have that vortex energy

2763
01:56:06,390 --> 01:56:04,400
you know it's it

2764
01:56:08,709 --> 01:56:06,400
the paranormal activity is basically

2765
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:08,719
feeding off of that so you're going to

2766
01:56:13,030 --> 01:56:09,760
get

2767
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:13,040
more sightings you're going to have you

2768
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:15,360
know in some of these what we would call

2769
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:16,719
a a

2770
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:18,000
ghost

2771
01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:19,679
it really ends up becoming if you do

2772
01:56:23,189 --> 01:56:21,920
some more investigation into it a lot of

2773
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:23,199
times it's actually you know something

2774
01:56:27,510 --> 01:56:24,719
like a time slip or something where

2775
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:27,520
we're witnessing something from another

2776
01:56:31,510 --> 01:56:28,560
dimension

2777
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:31,520
but it looks like a ghost to us

2778
01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:34,239
uh so yeah definitely in these locations

2779
01:56:39,910 --> 01:56:36,159
you're getting more because of the

2780
01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:39,920
heightened uh activity of the vortices

2781
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:41,360
you're getting the height and paranormal

2782
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:42,960
activity to go along with it and what

2783
01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:45,760
about orbs

2784
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,880
orbs well you know

2785
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:50,400
some of my fellow investigators love

2786
01:56:54,070 --> 01:56:52,000
them to death but a lot of times they'll

2787
01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:54,080
show me a photograph and you know it's a

2788
01:57:01,109 --> 01:56:58,159
dust door but you do get legitimate

2789
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:01,119
illuminated balls of light

2790
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:03,920
at some of these locations and so

2791
01:57:09,229 --> 01:57:06,480
when you have a true orb illuminated

2792
01:57:11,830 --> 01:57:09,239
ball of light that has its own energy

2793
01:57:13,910 --> 01:57:11,840
self-manifesting ball like that uh

2794
01:57:15,510 --> 01:57:13,920
places like the alaska triangle these

2795
01:57:17,830 --> 01:57:15,520
other triangle areas around the world

2796
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:17,840
will get more of that because the the

2797
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:19,440
energy that you're getting from the

2798
01:57:24,709 --> 01:57:22,880
vortices is uh basically supercharging

2799
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,719
a little ball of energy into something

2800
01:57:29,189 --> 01:57:26,159
that's even bigger

2801
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:29,199
have you seen an orb yourself

2802
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:32,080
i have a real legitimate orb legitimate

2803
01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:33,599
yeah uh

2804
01:57:37,830 --> 01:57:35,920
i have a fantastic photo of one it was

2805
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:37,840
at black bear church on the middle of

2806
01:57:42,470 --> 01:57:41,040
nowhere in uh oklahoma you know it's an

2807
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:42,480
abandoned church

2808
01:57:47,189 --> 01:57:45,440
and just walking in there is this oh

2809
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:47,199
you've eaten all of life you sent me the

2810
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:48,560
picture of that

2811
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:51,040
have i okay yes yes yes yes yes no that

2812
01:57:54,229 --> 01:57:52,560
was legit

2813
01:57:55,990 --> 01:57:54,239
i mean that was crazy that was during

2814
01:57:57,589 --> 01:57:56,000
the day too

2815
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:57,599
uh actually almost at night oh i thought

2816
01:58:01,510 --> 01:57:59,679
that was during the day yeah i thought

2817
01:58:05,109 --> 01:58:01,520
you sent me something during the day but

2818
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:05,119
i see this is the thing i dismissed orbs

2819
01:58:11,189 --> 01:58:07,599
for years i really did you know and i

2820
01:58:14,709 --> 01:58:11,199
had an excuse for each one dust whatever

2821
01:58:16,229 --> 01:58:14,719
yeah and i would get tons of pictures uh

2822
01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:16,239
every time i bring them up like right

2823
01:58:20,470 --> 01:58:18,560
now i will go to my email there's some

2824
01:58:24,229 --> 01:58:20,480
orb pictures being sent in from somebody

2825
01:58:26,470 --> 01:58:24,239
great fantastic i just just until i saw

2826
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:26,480
my first and only orb

2827
01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:30,239
but that was a game changer man that was

2828
01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:31,679
and i remember you know what came out of

2829
01:58:37,990 --> 01:58:34,400
my mouth

2830
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:38,000
you mean this bleep is real

2831
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:40,239
that i said it out loud in front of i

2832
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:41,520
mean i just couldn't believe i was

2833
01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:44,239
rubbing my eyes i really thought i was

2834
01:58:49,270 --> 01:58:45,679
hallucinating

2835
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:49,280
it was uh it was crazy and mine was 2d

2836
01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:51,360
mine wasn't 3d

2837
01:58:57,750 --> 01:58:54,480
my interesting mine was flat flat like a

2838
01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:57,760
a 40 foot quarter

2839
01:59:02,470 --> 01:59:00,320
yeah wow okay everybody else

2840
01:59:04,629 --> 01:59:02,480
that's interesting okay yeah yeah yeah

2841
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:04,639
everybody else saw it too if everybody

2842
01:59:09,589 --> 01:59:07,760
else hadn't seen it with me

2843
01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:09,599
that's a different story i just lost my

2844
01:59:14,390 --> 01:59:11,520
mind and i'm cool with that

2845
01:59:16,390 --> 01:59:14,400
but you know i'm sitting there mike as

2846
01:59:18,390 --> 01:59:16,400
as as i live and breathe

2847
01:59:20,229 --> 01:59:18,400
i'm looking at this thing

2848
01:59:22,070 --> 01:59:20,239
it's about a hundred yards away 200

2849
01:59:23,030 --> 01:59:22,080
yards away and i see it out in this

2850
01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:23,040
field

2851
01:59:28,830 --> 01:59:25,360
this lady behind me goes

2852
01:59:31,510 --> 01:59:28,840
is anybody looking at that gray orb out

2853
01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:31,520
there like oh my god

2854
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:33,119
no

2855
01:59:42,830 --> 01:59:40,480
i really don't if this is a spirit

2856
01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:42,840
you know if it's some kind of

2857
01:59:49,109 --> 01:59:46,639
interdimensional energy force is it

2858
01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:49,119
what uh so many ancient cultures have

2859
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:50,560
talked about over the years you know

2860
01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:52,400
spirit beings and and things that

2861
01:59:57,030 --> 01:59:55,280
manifest at these very special places

2862
01:59:58,870 --> 01:59:57,040
yeah absolutely how much time do we have

2863
02:00:01,589 --> 01:59:58,880
because i have a story to tell

2864
02:00:03,669 --> 02:00:01,599
okay can you do it in two minutes i can

2865
02:00:04,629 --> 02:00:03,679
do it in two minutes okay so

2866
02:00:06,790 --> 02:00:04,639
um

2867
02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:06,800
i believe some of these are you know

2868
02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,080
what we would call

2869
02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:10,639
maybe a earth elemental or supernatural

2870
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:11,920
being or something like that that they

2871
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:15,040
are in actual maybe spirit form so

2872
02:00:20,390 --> 02:00:17,920
we had uh we were on an old show bones

2873
02:00:22,149 --> 02:00:20,400
goldenrod showboat and we just finished

2874
02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:22,159
up a paranormal investigation just three

2875
02:00:26,870 --> 02:00:25,440
of us left and we're in the showroom

2876
02:00:28,950 --> 02:00:26,880
it's at night late

2877
02:00:30,629 --> 02:00:28,960
uh two women are sitting on the floor

2878
02:00:32,229 --> 02:00:30,639
they're just chatting i'm standing

2879
02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:32,239
basically between them looking out

2880
02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:33,760
toward the

2881
02:00:37,669 --> 02:00:35,920
lobby area i just have a

2882
02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:37,679
my flashlight is shining out there's the

2883
02:00:41,430 --> 02:00:39,280
only source of light is that flashlight

2884
02:00:43,669 --> 02:00:41,440
shining out that way and all of a sudden

2885
02:00:45,669 --> 02:00:43,679
between the ladies i see this uh

2886
02:00:47,510 --> 02:00:45,679
translucent yellow ball of light and orb

2887
02:00:48,790 --> 02:00:47,520
kind of dart between the two ladies i

2888
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:48,800
was like okay what the heck was that

2889
02:00:52,550 --> 02:00:50,719
that was strange

2890
02:00:54,550 --> 02:00:52,560
then a moment later

2891
02:00:56,149 --> 02:00:54,560
on the floor next to the one is this

2892
02:00:57,990 --> 02:00:56,159
it's a bar of light and it's kind of in

2893
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:58,000
a v shape what in the world is that

2894
02:01:00,790 --> 02:00:59,199
there's no other source of light because

2895
02:01:02,950 --> 02:01:00,800
they boarded up the place for the winter

2896
02:01:04,709 --> 02:01:02,960
we're doing the last investigation

2897
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:04,719
before the winter so i go around the one

2898
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:06,480
girl and i'm looking at the ground and

2899
02:01:09,030 --> 02:01:07,679
they're looking at me like i'm crazy

2900
02:01:10,950 --> 02:01:09,040
what the heck is he doing because i'm

2901
02:01:12,790 --> 02:01:10,960
like passing my hand is there a you know

2902
02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:12,800
source of light that's making this

2903
02:01:17,270 --> 02:01:14,800
all of a sudden that bar of light starts

2904
02:01:18,390 --> 02:01:17,280
fluttering like this and then is gone

2905
02:01:20,709 --> 02:01:18,400
like what the hell is that so i

2906
02:01:21,990 --> 02:01:20,719
described to them what i'd seen and then

2907
02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:22,000
around the one all of a sudden that

2908
02:01:24,550 --> 02:01:23,280
translucent ball of light kind of

2909
02:01:25,990 --> 02:01:24,560
whooshes around the one way did you guys

2910
02:01:27,430 --> 02:01:26,000
see that they're like no they were

2911
02:01:30,149 --> 02:01:27,440
looking at me so i'm like okay they

2912
02:01:31,510 --> 02:01:30,159
think i'm nuts but then a moment later

2913
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:31,520
all of a sudden that translucent yellow

2914
02:01:35,510 --> 02:01:33,760
ball of light is darting across the

2915
02:01:38,149 --> 02:01:35,520
showroom they're all seeing it for the

2916
02:01:39,830 --> 02:01:38,159
next four minutes we're all you know oh

2917
02:01:41,669 --> 02:01:39,840
there it is there it is there it is and

2918
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:41,679
i know it was four minutes because he we

2919
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:43,520
didn't have any video going at the time

2920
02:01:49,030 --> 02:01:45,760
was only audio so you hear us talking

2921
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:49,040
about it in the audio clips um and then

2922
02:01:52,629 --> 02:01:50,880
we finally just kind of swish between

2923
02:01:55,830 --> 02:01:52,639
the two and out back toward the lobby

2924
02:01:58,550 --> 02:01:55,840
area and what i think of that and people

2925
02:02:01,270 --> 02:01:58,560
will think i'm nuts when i used the word

2926
02:02:02,550 --> 02:02:01,280
but i think this was actually a fairy

2927
02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:02,560
and the reason why i think that's

2928
02:02:07,030 --> 02:02:05,440
because it was transformative the

2929
02:02:08,629 --> 02:02:07,040
translucent yellow ball of light and

2930
02:02:10,470 --> 02:02:08,639
then on the ground it was that bar of

2931
02:02:13,189 --> 02:02:10,480
light kind of in a v-shape

2932
02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:13,199
and that kind of waving back and forth

2933
02:02:16,470 --> 02:02:14,960
fluttering was that maybe the wings and

2934
02:02:20,149 --> 02:02:16,480
taking off and becoming that ball of

2935
02:02:22,629 --> 02:02:20,159
light again so secret agent secret agent

2936
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:22,639
nsa mike ricksecker

2937
02:02:27,030 --> 02:02:25,199
talks about fairies there you go that's

2938
02:02:29,030 --> 02:02:27,040
what i'm talking about let's take our

2939
02:02:30,310 --> 02:02:29,040
break right here this is fade to black

2940
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:30,320
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2941
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:31,840
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2942
02:02:37,589 --> 02:02:34,000
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2985
02:04:38,870 --> 02:04:36,480
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2986
02:04:40,629 --> 02:04:38,880
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2987
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3039
02:07:26,310 --> 02:07:24,639
i'm gonna be like race hobbes

3040
02:07:28,550 --> 02:07:26,320
i'm yours jimmy church this is fade to

3041
02:07:31,430 --> 02:07:28,560
black our guest tonight mike rick sucker

3042
02:07:34,629 --> 02:07:31,440
and uh i want to say this so when when i

3043
02:07:36,629 --> 02:07:34,639
arrive everybody i arrive at a ufo

3044
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:36,639
conference i'm going to be doing that uh

3045
02:07:42,310 --> 02:07:38,960
in a couple of days i'll be arriving

3046
02:07:43,350 --> 02:07:42,320
and i like to uh you know kind of stroll

3047
02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:43,360
in and

3048
02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:46,320
and take a look around and and spot the

3049
02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:48,239
fed that's my thing that's my thing i

3050
02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:50,800
gotta spot the fed and i look around

3051
02:07:55,589 --> 02:07:53,280
and then i see somebody like oh there's

3052
02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:55,599
a fed

3053
02:08:05,750 --> 02:08:02,310
oh it's mike ricksecker of course

3054
02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:05,760
of course black suit yes he he he's here

3055
02:08:12,229 --> 02:08:08,960
he is he is uh accounted for

3056
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:12,239
um do you uh ever

3057
02:08:16,629 --> 02:08:14,400
look at yourself

3058
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:16,639
as a man in black

3059
02:08:23,750 --> 02:08:20,079
i'm being serious i'm being very serious

3060
02:08:24,950 --> 02:08:23,760
i know you are i know and um

3061
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:24,960
you know i was hoping we would have had

3062
02:08:28,629 --> 02:08:27,119
more time together when we were there

3063
02:08:30,149 --> 02:08:28,639
and lawfully because i wanted to tell

3064
02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:30,159
you the stories over you know a couple

3065
02:08:34,709 --> 02:08:33,199
of beers or whatever but you know

3066
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:34,719
we didn't have a whole lot of time do i

3067
02:08:39,669 --> 02:08:37,840
view myself as a man of black you know

3068
02:08:42,870 --> 02:08:39,679
because i talk about it from from time

3069
02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:42,880
to time very briefly on on my show and

3070
02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:45,199
so there is kind of the you know kind of

3071
02:08:50,310 --> 02:08:47,199
running it's almost like a running joke

3072
02:08:52,709 --> 02:08:50,320
that yeah i was once a man in black

3073
02:08:54,390 --> 02:08:52,719
you know i worked at nsa for for a

3074
02:08:56,950 --> 02:08:54,400
couple of years

3075
02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:56,960
and there were times that yes i had to

3076
02:09:02,629 --> 02:08:59,280
don the black suit

3077
02:09:06,310 --> 02:09:04,390
but it wasn't necessarily as your

3078
02:09:09,270 --> 02:09:06,320
classic man in black but i'll tell you

3079
02:09:12,629 --> 02:09:09,280
jimmy exactly what was going on

3080
02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:12,639
so my job primarily while i was there i

3081
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:14,800
was a computer guy still am a computer

3082
02:09:16,870 --> 02:09:16,000
guy

3083
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:16,880
so

3084
02:09:23,189 --> 02:09:20,719
for our division i was basically systems

3085
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:23,199
admin network administration that sort

3086
02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:24,400
of thing

3087
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,000
and

3088
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:28,079
basically for for the spies i wasn't i

3089
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:31,440
wasn't just by myself but

3090
02:09:35,750 --> 02:09:33,360
we supported them

3091
02:09:39,030 --> 02:09:35,760
and there were times that we had to go

3092
02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:39,040
off site off the main nsa campus

3093
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:42,639
to some undisclosed location and

3094
02:09:49,350 --> 02:09:45,360
can i ask uh what yeah when you say nsa

3095
02:09:51,030 --> 02:09:49,360
campus uh in in virginia in d.c we're

3096
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:51,040
talking fort meade

3097
02:09:54,229 --> 02:09:51,840
yeah

3098
02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:54,239
maryland right okay

3099
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:56,400
yeah the the four main buildings there

3100
02:10:01,510 --> 02:09:59,520
that are together at fort meade

3101
02:10:02,470 --> 02:10:01,520
so i was in the old i was in the old ops

3102
02:10:04,229 --> 02:10:02,480
building

3103
02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:04,239
uh but they're all they're all connected

3104
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:05,119
together

3105
02:10:10,709 --> 02:10:06,239
so

3106
02:10:12,310 --> 02:10:10,719
the building to support an off-site

3107
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:12,320
location and

3108
02:10:17,270 --> 02:10:14,480
these locations were hidden in plain

3109
02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:17,280
sight so they might just they might be

3110
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:19,280
in a small office

3111
02:10:22,069 --> 02:10:21,040
strip mall or something like that look

3112
02:10:23,990 --> 02:10:22,079
kind of out of the way because they

3113
02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:24,000
don't want to be too obvious

3114
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:26,560
um but they would set up basically a

3115
02:10:29,830 --> 02:10:27,520
front

3116
02:10:32,470 --> 02:10:29,840
you know um there would be a little

3117
02:10:35,270 --> 02:10:32,480
reception area with the with a girl

3118
02:10:36,790 --> 02:10:35,280
sitting at a desk um and because they

3119
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:36,800
didn't want this to be known that it was

3120
02:10:40,229 --> 02:10:38,800
a government operation you know they

3121
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:40,239
didn't want to showing up there in

3122
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:42,880
uniform so we'd be asked to put on the

3123
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:44,560
dark suit and tie

3124
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:47,280
and go to this location

3125
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:48,880
and we would

3126
02:10:52,790 --> 02:10:50,880
sign in we'd show our credentials we'd

3127
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:52,800
sign in the woman would buzz us through

3128
02:10:55,589 --> 02:10:54,400
a door

3129
02:10:57,750 --> 02:10:55,599
we'd get through that other door and

3130
02:10:58,629 --> 02:10:57,760
basically there's there's a vault back

3131
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:58,639
there

3132
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:01,199
and through that vault would be this

3133
02:11:05,270 --> 02:11:03,360
hidden computer center where we would be

3134
02:11:08,310 --> 02:11:05,280
back there our job again was to to

3135
02:11:11,510 --> 02:11:08,320
service those computers for

3136
02:11:13,910 --> 02:11:11,520
their surveillance operations

3137
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:13,920
that is crazy town

3138
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:15,840
i mean that is that that's crazy town

3139
02:11:23,270 --> 02:11:19,520
stuff i mean seriously and this

3140
02:11:25,350 --> 02:11:23,280
in plain sight would you classify that

3141
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:25,360
yeah in plain sight because wow like i

3142
02:11:28,870 --> 02:11:27,199
said you're talking you know like about

3143
02:11:30,310 --> 02:11:28,880
a little office strip mall or something

3144
02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:30,320
like that

3145
02:11:34,550 --> 02:11:33,040
yeah totally hidden in plain sight oh

3146
02:11:36,950 --> 02:11:34,560
man

3147
02:11:39,910 --> 02:11:36,960
did you uh were you there when edward

3148
02:11:43,189 --> 02:11:39,920
snowden was uh running around

3149
02:11:44,550 --> 02:11:43,199
i was before snowden so our our friend

3150
02:11:47,189 --> 02:11:44,560
said goldberg asked me a little bit

3151
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:47,199
about that at loughlin and i basically

3152
02:11:52,709 --> 02:11:50,719
told him that what snowden was doing was

3153
02:11:54,790 --> 02:11:52,719
essentially what we were doing but on

3154
02:11:56,790 --> 02:11:54,800
crack because you know they were doing

3155
02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:56,800
all kinds of crazy video surveillance

3156
02:12:04,470 --> 02:12:01,119
and stuff like that um ours was audio

3157
02:12:07,030 --> 02:12:04,480
and how oh okay okay

3158
02:12:09,189 --> 02:12:07,040
let's speak in hypotheticals

3159
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:09,199
okay wink wink and if you can't answer

3160
02:12:12,629 --> 02:12:10,400
just hit

3161
02:12:14,550 --> 02:12:12,639
hit the desk once for no

3162
02:12:15,990 --> 02:12:14,560
twice for yes okay yeah because there's

3163
02:12:16,870 --> 02:12:16,000
some things i can't say otherwise in

3164
02:12:17,750 --> 02:12:16,880
three minutes they're going to be

3165
02:12:19,589 --> 02:12:17,760
outside

3166
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:19,599
they're going to be here too as well

3167
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:21,760
yeah i'm sure so

3168
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:22,719
uh

3169
02:12:28,550 --> 02:12:25,840
a show like this for instance

3170
02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:28,560
um it's one thing that we we know about

3171
02:12:32,229 --> 02:12:30,480
uh what's been going on you know with

3172
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:32,239
cell phone surveillance right okay

3173
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:34,560
that's been out in the public uh

3174
02:12:40,950 --> 02:12:38,480
allegedly it no longer continues

3175
02:12:43,109 --> 02:12:40,960
uh whatever okay we have to assume that

3176
02:12:45,669 --> 02:12:43,119
it does and and i kind of feel better

3177
02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:45,679
that it does go down anyway

3178
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:47,599
uh sue me

3179
02:12:54,470 --> 02:12:50,800
don't don't don't send emails

3180
02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:54,480
but uh a show like this

3181
02:12:58,550 --> 02:12:56,719
and and other broadcasts is that

3182
02:13:01,830 --> 02:12:58,560
monitored

3183
02:13:04,149 --> 02:13:01,840
and and if it is is it is it done

3184
02:13:06,550 --> 02:13:04,159
through machine learning

3185
02:13:08,069 --> 02:13:06,560
is it being scrubbed by

3186
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:08,079
algorithms

3187
02:13:14,229 --> 02:13:11,040
or are there actual human beings

3188
02:13:19,990 --> 02:13:17,750
yes to all of the above um it can be

3189
02:13:22,149 --> 02:13:20,000
you know if if they want to they'll

3190
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:22,159
they'll monitor this uh you know these

3191
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:24,880
days again this i was involved 25 years

3192
02:13:30,229 --> 02:13:26,560
ago you know the technology that's come

3193
02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:30,239
out in 25 years is is crazy town so i

3194
02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:32,400
can only speak from what we were doing

3195
02:13:39,189 --> 02:13:35,440
back then and it was basically

3196
02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:39,199
um if they wanted to they could it was a

3197
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:40,560
matter of

3198
02:13:42,709 --> 02:13:41,440
uh

3199
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:42,719
it was a matter of choice making the

3200
02:13:48,550 --> 02:13:46,079
decision this is who we're going to tune

3201
02:13:49,510 --> 02:13:48,560
into and listen to

3202
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:49,520
now

3203
02:14:00,390 --> 02:13:59,119
to listen to and tune into and they

3204
02:14:03,189 --> 02:14:00,400
would have

3205
02:14:05,030 --> 02:14:03,199
um whatever algorithms that they use to

3206
02:14:07,270 --> 02:14:05,040
be able to filter that out you know i

3207
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:07,280
mean database driven you know these are

3208
02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:08,239
the

3209
02:14:14,229 --> 02:14:12,960
most interesting targets that we want to

3210
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:14,239
to listen to

3211
02:14:21,109 --> 02:14:17,679
and then they would go ahead and do that

3212
02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:21,119
now there is a lot of chatter today and

3213
02:14:25,589 --> 02:14:23,440
i know you follow everything

3214
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:25,599
uh about

3215
02:14:31,109 --> 02:14:28,320
all of the agencies uh

3216
02:14:32,229 --> 02:14:31,119
involved in the uap subject

3217
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:32,239
and

3218
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:40,480
uh asking for

3219
02:14:45,589 --> 02:14:42,960
uh interdepartmental interagency

3220
02:14:47,830 --> 02:14:45,599
communication on this

3221
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:47,840
information and trying to get these

3222
02:14:52,830 --> 02:14:49,280
reports

3223
02:14:56,069 --> 02:14:52,840
uh and sightings and interactions uh and

3224
02:14:58,310 --> 02:14:56,079
events uh collectively

3225
02:14:59,589 --> 02:14:58,320
in into one spot from all of the

3226
02:15:01,750 --> 02:14:59,599
agencies

3227
02:15:05,030 --> 02:15:01,760
was there when you were there was there

3228
02:15:08,950 --> 02:15:05,040
a ufo it wasn't uap back then but was

3229
02:15:11,589 --> 02:15:08,960
there an interest in the ufo subject

3230
02:15:13,910 --> 02:15:11,599
there was now

3231
02:15:16,069 --> 02:15:13,920
keep in mind that

3232
02:15:17,910 --> 02:15:16,079
uh security clearance i had a top secret

3233
02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:17,920
security clearance but it was a need to

3234
02:15:23,270 --> 02:15:21,520
know basis so i had a ts ssbi security

3235
02:15:25,510 --> 02:15:23,280
clearance and all those letters mean

3236
02:15:27,189 --> 02:15:25,520
different uh compartments

3237
02:15:28,069 --> 02:15:27,199
so while

3238
02:15:30,149 --> 02:15:28,079
my

3239
02:15:31,669 --> 02:15:30,159
clearance would have allowed me into

3240
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:31,679
different compartments i still had to

3241
02:15:36,310 --> 02:15:34,159
need to have a need to know to be able

3242
02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:36,320
to get into those different compartments

3243
02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:39,040
and my need to know usually came down to

3244
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:40,400
is there some

3245
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:42,000
computer i need to fix or administrate

3246
02:15:44,870 --> 02:15:43,280
or what have you

3247
02:15:48,629 --> 02:15:44,880
so

3248
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:48,639
i could see kind of the periphery like

3249
02:15:54,950 --> 02:15:51,280
okay i see that something is going on

3250
02:15:57,189 --> 02:15:54,960
here there is an interest in ufos and

3251
02:15:59,990 --> 02:15:57,199
extraterrestrial activity but i could

3252
02:16:01,750 --> 02:16:00,000
not get in there to see what those

3253
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:01,760
details would be

3254
02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:03,280
and uh

3255
02:16:06,950 --> 02:16:05,040
if you were gonna make uh again we're

3256
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:06,960
speaking in hypotheticals

3257
02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:08,560
is this uh

3258
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:12,239
an interest in media chatter or is this

3259
02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:15,119
an interest uh do you think in in in

3260
02:16:23,430 --> 02:16:20,480
military activity or or something else

3261
02:16:26,709 --> 02:16:23,440
this was um

3262
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:26,719
this was basically it was not media uh

3263
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:29,520
chatter so this wasn't uh

3264
02:16:33,589 --> 02:16:31,360
like disinformation or anything like

3265
02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:33,599
that this was actual you know research

3266
02:16:38,549 --> 02:16:35,599
into ufo phenomena

3267
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:38,559
wow and and when you when you take the

3268
02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:40,880
time to look back uh

3269
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:43,920
what do you think was uh going on it was

3270
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:48,000
the nsa in in contact with the e.t

3271
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:49,439
i mean it would be it would be purely

3272
02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:51,120
speculative because again i i couldn't

3273
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:54,240
see into uh into those files or you know

3274
02:16:57,589 --> 02:16:56,240
into that information all i could really

3275
02:17:00,309 --> 02:16:57,599
see was that

3276
02:17:02,309 --> 02:17:00,319
they are at least they've at least set

3277
02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:02,319
aside uh

3278
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:05,519
personnel staffing a department and that

3279
02:17:08,309 --> 02:17:07,519
sort of thing for

3280
02:17:10,230 --> 02:17:08,319
uh

3281
02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:10,240
for research into

3282
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:12,800
uh ufo activity and that's that's really

3283
02:17:17,429 --> 02:17:15,679
all i could see now uh you you had asked

3284
02:17:18,950 --> 02:17:17,439
about other things like the media and

3285
02:17:21,110 --> 02:17:18,960
there may have been that too i didn't

3286
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:21,120
see that there it was

3287
02:17:26,469 --> 02:17:24,000
you know for the ufo research

3288
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:26,479
does this surprise you especially what

3289
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:30,559
you know now well not at all

3290
02:17:33,349 --> 02:17:31,439
um

3291
02:17:34,709 --> 02:17:33,359
you know since then you know i came to

3292
02:17:37,270 --> 02:17:34,719
know more about you know things like

3293
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:37,280
project blue book and all that so um

3294
02:17:42,309 --> 02:17:39,439
yeah not surprising at all that that you

3295
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:42,319
know still went on after they have you

3296
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:43,679
know closed down blue book that there

3297
02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:44,960
were still

3298
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:47,359
or still research into it and then you

3299
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:49,359
know finding out later on that other

3300
02:17:52,389 --> 02:17:50,800
other projects like remote viewing

3301
02:17:54,709 --> 02:17:52,399
projects and things like that we're

3302
02:17:57,110 --> 02:17:54,719
going on right there for meade on the uh

3303
02:17:59,030 --> 02:17:57,120
on the army side that's right really you

3304
02:18:00,629 --> 02:17:59,040
know they shut that down right as i got

3305
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:00,639
to fort meade

3306
02:18:06,629 --> 02:18:03,920
very interesting now uh i i could

3307
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:06,639
continue uh i'm gonna

3308
02:18:11,270 --> 02:18:08,399
probably make some people angry right

3309
02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:11,280
now by not continuing this line of of

3310
02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:13,280
questioning but we've only got so much

3311
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:17,120
time darcy weir uh just finished uh his

3312
02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:19,519
project that he's been talking about for

3313
02:18:24,629 --> 02:18:22,000
quite a while on the men in black

3314
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:24,639
and uh have you seen the film

3315
02:18:29,429 --> 02:18:27,359
i have yeah i watched it uh last night i

3316
02:18:31,669 --> 02:18:29,439
got the notification at midnight that it

3317
02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:31,679
had dropped so uh you know just

3318
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:33,840
premiered today you can find it it's

3319
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:36,479
called who saw the men in black you can

3320
02:18:41,910 --> 02:18:39,599
find that amazon uh

3321
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:41,920
apple tv a lot of different locations

3322
02:18:47,030 --> 02:18:45,040
voodoo and uh yeah it's it's it's pretty

3323
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:47,040
interesting so he dives into the men in

3324
02:18:52,070 --> 02:18:49,200
black phenomenon uh

3325
02:18:54,150 --> 02:18:52,080
some great uh people are featured on

3326
02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:54,160
that like uh

3327
02:18:58,309 --> 02:18:56,319
richard dolan richard doty john

3328
02:19:00,389 --> 02:18:58,319
burroughs is on there i'm i'm on there

3329
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:00,399
as well you know talking about some of

3330
02:19:04,389 --> 02:19:02,240
these uh

3331
02:19:07,429 --> 02:19:04,399
kind of we get into the historic aspect

3332
02:19:10,709 --> 02:19:07,439
of the men in black and then we get into

3333
02:19:13,110 --> 02:19:10,719
some of the more modern phenomenon so

3334
02:19:15,669 --> 02:19:13,120
i'm on there talking about the albert k

3335
02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:15,679
bender sightings from the early 1950s

3336
02:19:20,150 --> 02:19:18,000
which is you know extremely interesting

3337
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:20,160
because you could look at it was it was

3338
02:19:23,750 --> 02:19:22,000
it et's was it the men in black was the

3339
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:23,760
shadow phenomenon

3340
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:26,000
and then uh he also has me on there

3341
02:19:28,469 --> 02:19:27,519
talking a little bit about my nsa

3342
02:19:33,110 --> 02:19:28,479
experience

3343
02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:33,120
now uh uh the bender part see this is

3344
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:35,439
i think that a lot

3345
02:19:41,270 --> 02:19:36,479
of

3346
02:19:42,549 --> 02:19:41,280
looks at the men in black phenomena as

3347
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:42,559
as modern

3348
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:46,960
right 2000s 1990s uh well yeah

3349
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:48,960
will smith and tommy and there's nothing

3350
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:50,560
wrong with that

3351
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:53,760
you dive into this and you go back to

3352
02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:56,080
bender now the thing

3353
02:20:02,389 --> 02:19:59,680
the bender saga covers

3354
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:02,399
well about a decade

3355
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:05,040
and and he was

3356
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:07,120
he went from

3357
02:20:13,830 --> 02:20:10,560
uh

3358
02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:13,840
a black and white

3359
02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:18,790
guy

3360
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:22,000
to full-on e.t contact people in his

3361
02:20:26,389 --> 02:20:22,880
house

3362
02:20:28,150 --> 02:20:26,399
he did he did the full reversal

3363
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:28,160
and at the end

3364
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:31,120
uh when he started i think that he blew

3365
02:20:34,309 --> 02:20:32,720
people's minds it was like who are we

3366
02:20:35,830 --> 02:20:34,319
talking to here

3367
02:20:38,710 --> 02:20:35,840
you're not the guy that

3368
02:20:41,030 --> 02:20:38,720
that we knew 10 years ago

3369
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:41,040
now you're talking about aliens dressed

3370
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:43,120
in black suits walking through walls in

3371
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:44,800
your home

3372
02:20:50,710 --> 02:20:45,600
yeah

3373
02:20:53,150 --> 02:20:50,720
his whole story because

3374
02:20:56,630 --> 02:20:53,160
you know you had the big ufo flap of of

3375
02:20:59,830 --> 02:20:56,640
1952 and there had already been you know

3376
02:21:00,870 --> 02:20:59,840
several several uh notorious ufc ufo

3377
02:21:02,469 --> 02:21:00,880
side well they were calling flying

3378
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:02,479
saucers back then of those sightings

3379
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:05,280
back then and so he wanted to know more

3380
02:21:08,150 --> 02:21:06,960
about what's going on with this

3381
02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:08,160
phenomenon you know because there's

3382
02:21:12,230 --> 02:21:10,080
there's a national security scare you

3383
02:21:13,349 --> 02:21:12,240
people forget you know this is uh you

3384
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,359
know back during the time you know

3385
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:15,600
communism was you know evil he had

3386
02:21:19,830 --> 02:21:17,520
mccarthyism and all that so okay what's

3387
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:19,840
going on with these ufos so he puts

3388
02:21:24,389 --> 02:21:22,720
together this organization to research

3389
02:21:27,190 --> 02:21:24,399
this activity the international flying

3390
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:27,200
saucer bureau and it blew up huge in a

3391
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:28,960
year when international was in the uk it

3392
02:21:32,150 --> 02:21:30,160
was in australia they had this

3393
02:21:35,750 --> 02:21:32,160
newsletter going out and then all of a

3394
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:35,760
sudden out of nowhere boom he ends the

3395
02:21:38,710 --> 02:21:36,720
thing

3396
02:21:41,110 --> 02:21:38,720
and it's like what what happened he just

3397
02:21:43,670 --> 02:21:41,120
makes one simple announcement we're done

3398
02:21:45,590 --> 02:21:43,680
and folded up the entire organization

3399
02:21:48,469 --> 02:21:45,600
and so there was no well and nobody knew

3400
02:21:50,469 --> 02:21:48,479
why nobody knew why

3401
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:50,479
no nobody knew why there was like some

3402
02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:52,160
chatter and some talking was it the men

3403
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:53,920
in black because there had been some men

3404
02:21:58,550 --> 02:21:56,000
in black you know reports

3405
02:22:01,030 --> 02:21:58,560
and uh you know great barker had kind of

3406
02:22:03,190 --> 02:22:01,040
speculated in one of his books in the in

3407
02:22:06,550 --> 02:22:03,200
the mid 1950s about what had happened

3408
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:06,560
but bender was not talking at all until

3409
02:22:10,790 --> 02:22:07,840
he finally published his book in the

3410
02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:10,800
early 1960s uh which was about 10 years

3411
02:22:14,469 --> 02:22:12,080
later

3412
02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:14,479
and he says uh

3413
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:16,479
i haven't read the book in a long time

3414
02:22:21,710 --> 02:22:18,560
uh but uh

3415
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:21,720
but he says that he was visited in in

3416
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:25,280
1952 and they said shut this down

3417
02:22:30,309 --> 02:22:28,319
right and and that was the story

3418
02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:30,319
yes the book was flying saucers and the

3419
02:22:34,550 --> 02:22:31,520
three men

3420
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:34,560
and yeah he was basically he was in his

3421
02:22:40,710 --> 02:22:38,080
bedroom and there were these three

3422
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:40,720
hat wearing shadowy entities with

3423
02:22:47,349 --> 02:22:43,120
glowing eyes that materialized through

3424
02:22:48,309 --> 02:22:47,359
his wall and said you have to stop this

3425
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:48,319
now

3426
02:22:51,910 --> 02:22:50,160
and when i first heard that story i was

3427
02:22:53,510 --> 02:22:51,920
blown away because i'm like wait a

3428
02:22:55,510 --> 02:22:53,520
second wait a second

3429
02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:55,520
these are these are shadow guys these

3430
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:57,760
are you know like the hat men

3431
02:23:01,990 --> 02:23:00,399
this is paranormal uh paranormal stuff

3432
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:02,000
is is you know what i thought but

3433
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:03,280
benner's saying well these were

3434
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:05,600
extraterrestrials and they showed me

3435
02:23:09,429 --> 02:23:07,840
their operation in antarctica where they

3436
02:23:11,590 --> 02:23:09,439
were harvesting resources and they said

3437
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:11,600
that they were doing this for 15 years

3438
02:23:15,349 --> 02:23:13,359
and i could not say a thing about it

3439
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:15,359
until they were off planet but then

3440
02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:17,760
again other people they hear the story

3441
02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:18,960
and they're like well these are the men

3442
02:23:24,309 --> 02:23:22,000
in black so it's almost like

3443
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:24,319
just depending on which lens you view it

3444
02:23:27,670 --> 02:23:25,840
through it's it's a little bit of a

3445
02:23:29,750 --> 02:23:27,680
different story but it's all it's

3446
02:23:32,070 --> 02:23:29,760
they're really all the same entities

3447
02:23:33,830 --> 02:23:32,080
well and and what i find interesting

3448
02:23:35,429 --> 02:23:33,840
about the men in black is you kind of

3449
02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:35,439
get uh

3450
02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:38,080
two different stories my experience mine

3451
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:39,680
was a woman in black

3452
02:23:43,270 --> 02:23:42,000
uh with with three men and black dudes

3453
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:43,280
behind her

3454
02:23:48,309 --> 02:23:46,000
um but these were these were humans in

3455
02:23:49,349 --> 02:23:48,319
fact the three the three guys behind the

3456
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:49,359
lady

3457
02:23:56,230 --> 02:23:53,040
um all were from uh the nebraska

3458
02:23:58,309 --> 02:23:56,240
cornhuskers college football team

3459
02:24:00,389 --> 02:23:58,319
they were big dudes especially the guy

3460
02:24:01,750 --> 02:24:00,399
in the middle i mean big physically uh

3461
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:01,760
big guys

3462
02:24:07,270 --> 02:24:04,160
but they were human and then you hear

3463
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:07,280
the uh well i'm assuming they were

3464
02:24:09,910 --> 02:24:08,960
and then you hear the other stories

3465
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:09,920
where

3466
02:24:15,270 --> 02:24:12,080
uh you know the skin is different eyes

3467
02:24:17,830 --> 02:24:15,280
are different body movement is different

3468
02:24:18,950 --> 02:24:17,840
and and they are not human

3469
02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:18,960
uh

3470
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:23,200
both

3471
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:29,040
real you do have your your government

3472
02:24:32,550 --> 02:24:31,600
agencies that uh you have the guys

3473
02:24:34,710 --> 02:24:32,560
dressed in the suits and they're

3474
02:24:35,990 --> 02:24:34,720
intimidating um you know our buddy rick

3475
02:24:37,590 --> 02:24:36,000
dodie's talked about actually working

3476
02:24:38,870 --> 02:24:37,600
with these guys when when he worked for

3477
02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:38,880
osi

3478
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:40,160
so yeah there are government

3479
02:24:43,670 --> 02:24:41,760
organizations with these individuals

3480
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:43,680
that we call them in black

3481
02:24:48,469 --> 02:24:46,080
but there's also this whether it's

3482
02:24:50,630 --> 02:24:48,479
supernatural or extraterrestrial or

3483
02:24:53,349 --> 02:24:50,640
interdimensional there are these other

3484
02:24:55,110 --> 02:24:53,359
dark shadowy hat wearing type entities

3485
02:24:56,950 --> 02:24:55,120
that are not

3486
02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:56,960
quite human

3487
02:24:59,910 --> 02:24:57,920
that

3488
02:25:02,309 --> 02:24:59,920
they appear at these different you know

3489
02:25:04,710 --> 02:25:02,319
whether it's a ufo setting or you know

3490
02:25:06,710 --> 02:25:04,720
sometimes you know sometimes people are

3491
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:06,720
you know seeing them in their room at

3492
02:25:11,110 --> 02:25:09,200
night just watching and observing

3493
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:11,120
for whatever what what information we're

3494
02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:13,760
gathering we're not sure but uh it there

3495
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:16,000
is a supernatural element to many of

3496
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:19,840
these beings now it is uh the human side

3497
02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:21,600
of the men in black

3498
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:23,280
would that be

3499
02:25:29,270 --> 02:25:26,240
uh i don't think it could be attributed

3500
02:25:31,349 --> 02:25:29,280
to the cia because that would be

3501
02:25:32,230 --> 02:25:31,359
inside of the united states

3502
02:25:34,550 --> 02:25:32,240
and

3503
02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:34,560
that would be illegal uh

3504
02:25:39,270 --> 02:25:37,280
right supposedly that cia doesn't

3505
02:25:41,990 --> 02:25:39,280
operate inside of the united states but

3506
02:25:43,429 --> 02:25:42,000
if it's coming from an agency

3507
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:43,439
would it be

3508
02:25:52,710 --> 02:25:51,200
i would most likely be a branch of the

3509
02:25:55,190 --> 02:25:52,720
military and i'm trying to remember off

3510
02:25:57,349 --> 02:25:55,200
the top of my head you know what rickard

3511
02:25:58,550 --> 02:25:57,359
said about it because uh he's actually

3512
02:26:01,190 --> 02:25:58,560
worked with those guys he said that they

3513
02:26:02,950 --> 02:26:01,200
were out of belfore so uh which would be

3514
02:26:04,469 --> 02:26:02,960
military but you have

3515
02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:04,479
some of those civilian government

3516
02:26:07,510 --> 02:26:06,000
agencies that work out of these

3517
02:26:09,590 --> 02:26:07,520
locations as well

3518
02:26:10,469 --> 02:26:09,600
um but yeah it wouldn't be cia because

3519
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:10,479
that

3520
02:26:15,590 --> 02:26:12,960
wouldn't be operating within the u.s now

3521
02:26:18,070 --> 02:26:15,600
with um specifically about the nsa which

3522
02:26:20,630 --> 02:26:18,080
i think is very mysterious to a lot of

3523
02:26:22,309 --> 02:26:20,640
us in in the nro where we didn't even

3524
02:26:24,469 --> 02:26:22,319
know a lot of these

3525
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:24,479
agencies and specifically those two

3526
02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:27,520
actually ever existed right so

3527
02:26:33,510 --> 02:26:29,920
uh but does

3528
02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:33,520
the nsa and the nro

3529
02:26:38,950 --> 02:26:35,680
are they working inside of buildings or

3530
02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:38,960
do they have agents that are out in the

3531
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:40,000
field

3532
02:26:44,870 --> 02:26:43,600
there are several

3533
02:26:47,349 --> 02:26:44,880
uh

3534
02:26:49,030 --> 02:26:47,359
nsa installations

3535
02:26:51,830 --> 02:26:49,040
all over the place i mean there was one

3536
02:26:55,270 --> 02:26:51,840
right down the hall for me in alaska

3537
02:26:56,710 --> 02:26:55,280
it was it was a smaller uh office that

3538
02:26:59,270 --> 02:26:56,720
they were working out of but yeah you

3539
02:27:02,710 --> 02:26:59,280
had uh you have nsa field agents that

3540
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:02,720
that go out and work off site

3541
02:27:07,750 --> 02:27:05,200
what does i've got two minutes

3542
02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:07,760
what would an nsa

3543
02:27:12,950 --> 02:27:11,120
field agent do

3544
02:27:15,190 --> 02:27:12,960
i mean it depends on their their

3545
02:27:17,030 --> 02:27:15,200
assignment so you know most of the them

3546
02:27:19,590 --> 02:27:17,040
that i worked with when i was actually

3547
02:27:23,190 --> 02:27:19,600
at at the headquarters and had to go off

3548
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:23,200
site most of them were surveillance uh

3549
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:25,520
you'll have other ones that are you know

3550
02:27:28,710 --> 02:27:26,880
intelligence gathering i mean that's a

3551
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:28,720
lot of what it is it's intelligence

3552
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:31,600
gathering is what they classify it as so

3553
02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:34,240
a field agent up in alaska

3554
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:36,080
i mean you have to think at that point

3555
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:37,600
you know we're kind of close to russia

3556
02:27:41,590 --> 02:27:40,080
up there so that may have been more of

3557
02:27:44,309 --> 02:27:41,600
what their targets were

3558
02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:44,319
very interesting that's speculation very

3559
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:46,000
very interesting what are you working on

3560
02:27:52,230 --> 02:27:47,439
now

3561
02:27:54,389 --> 02:27:52,240
besides everything um yeah i just got

3562
02:27:56,870 --> 02:27:54,399
done with the alaska's mysterious jungle

3563
02:27:59,030 --> 02:27:56,880
but really i'm trying to gather myself

3564
02:28:01,910 --> 02:27:59,040
together uh for all my projects that are

3565
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:01,920
going on next year because uh we have

3566
02:28:07,030 --> 02:28:05,040
the uh the ireland tour in the summer

3567
02:28:07,910 --> 02:28:07,040
i have the uh

3568
02:28:09,190 --> 02:28:07,920
the

3569
02:28:11,750 --> 02:28:09,200
egypt tour that we're gonna be doing

3570
02:28:12,630 --> 02:28:11,760
with muhammad ibrahim but as far as uh

3571
02:28:14,870 --> 02:28:12,640
books

3572
02:28:17,429 --> 02:28:14,880
connecting the universe so i have my

3573
02:28:20,230 --> 02:28:17,439
online portal connected universe portal

3574
02:28:21,750 --> 02:28:20,240
which is an online learning site and i'm

3575
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:21,760
taking a lot of that material and

3576
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:24,640
expanding that into a book

3577
02:28:29,950 --> 02:28:26,880
called connecting the universe and that

3578
02:28:31,429 --> 02:28:29,960
is connected uh

3579
02:28:32,830 --> 02:28:31,439
connecteduniverseportal.com and that

3580
02:28:35,389 --> 02:28:32,840
link is over at

3581
02:28:37,510 --> 02:28:35,399
jimmychurchradio.com including

3582
02:28:40,070 --> 02:28:37,520
mikericksecker.com and where is the best

3583
02:28:41,630 --> 02:28:40,080
place for everybody to reach out to you

3584
02:28:44,150 --> 02:28:41,640
yeah you can reach out to me

3585
02:28:46,150 --> 02:28:44,160
mikericksecker.com uh you can find me

3586
02:28:47,910 --> 02:28:46,160
all over social media so yeah just look

3587
02:28:49,670 --> 02:28:47,920
me up put mike ricksecker into google

3588
02:28:51,670 --> 02:28:49,680
and there you go i can't wait to hang

3589
02:28:53,270 --> 02:28:51,680
out with you again man and we do have to

3590
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:53,280
drink that beer and i want to get the

3591
02:28:56,790 --> 02:28:54,479
secret stuff

3592
02:28:59,349 --> 02:28:56,800
mike thank you so much ma'am another

3593
02:29:01,190 --> 02:28:59,359
great show be safe out there

3594
02:29:04,309 --> 02:29:01,200
yeah you too my friend take care mike

3595
02:29:06,150 --> 02:29:04,319
rick sucker the real man in black i am

3596
02:29:09,110 --> 02:29:06,160
your host jimmy church thank you mike

3597
02:29:11,349 --> 02:29:09,120
have a great night man awesome awesome

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stuff this is fade to black i'm your

3599
02:29:15,830 --> 02:29:13,040
host jimmy church

3600
02:29:18,990 --> 02:29:15,840
what a great night thank you mike

3601
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:19,000
the alaskan triangle 186

3602
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:22,399
883 square miles thank you zenzabel

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02:29:25,030 --> 02:29:23,680
i'm your host jimmy church i'm going to

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take a quick break come back to your

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3673
02:33:42,870 --> 02:33:40,800
gotta drink more water

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02:33:46,230 --> 02:33:42,880
i mean like all day long i

3675
02:33:47,349 --> 02:33:46,240
you just the body needs uh

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02:33:49,910 --> 02:33:47,359
oil

3677
02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:49,920
right that lubricant so there you go

3678
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:50,800
anyway

3679
02:33:55,270 --> 02:33:52,240
uh i've opened up the phone line

3680
02:34:00,230 --> 02:33:58,389
and if you are on hold stay right there

3681
02:34:02,230 --> 02:34:00,240
and i'll line up a couple more phone

3682
02:34:04,070 --> 02:34:02,240
calls before the end of the break a

3683
02:34:06,309 --> 02:34:04,080
couple of uh interesting takeaways i

3684
02:34:07,030 --> 02:34:06,319
want to thank mike ricksucker for coming

3685
02:34:11,030 --> 02:34:07,040
in

3686
02:34:14,830 --> 02:34:11,040
tonight uh

3687
02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:14,840
uh you know when you jump into

3688
02:34:20,309 --> 02:34:16,640
um uh

3689
02:34:22,870 --> 02:34:20,319
the the nsa the agencies and and their

3690
02:34:26,150 --> 02:34:22,880
investigation into this phenomena

3691
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:26,160
i am uh convinced uh that they have a

3692
02:34:30,550 --> 02:34:27,760
general interest

3693
02:34:33,349 --> 02:34:30,560
in in what is going on and to hear it

3694
02:34:34,710 --> 02:34:33,359
from him this is the thing about mike

3695
02:34:35,510 --> 02:34:34,720
um

3696
02:34:44,870 --> 02:34:35,520
he

3697
02:34:46,950 --> 02:34:44,880
um

3698
02:34:49,349 --> 02:34:46,960
yeah well you look the parts so we'll

3699
02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:49,359
find a place for you here but you've got

3700
02:34:54,710 --> 02:34:50,880
the right image

3701
02:34:56,309 --> 02:34:54,720
and uh and that's mike and and he is uh

3702
02:34:59,510 --> 02:34:56,319
so intelligent

3703
02:35:01,349 --> 02:34:59,520
and and and so smart and for him to be a

3704
02:35:03,429 --> 02:35:01,359
part of this community and

3705
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:03,439
in applying uh

3706
02:35:08,550 --> 02:35:06,399
that that mindset to

3707
02:35:13,110 --> 02:35:08,560
the paranormal and the supernatural and

3708
02:35:16,230 --> 02:35:13,120
certainly uh ufos and in history uh it

3709
02:35:20,070 --> 02:35:16,240
it's amazing uh to hear him uh go

3710
02:35:22,230 --> 02:35:20,080
through all of that and i just dropped

3711
02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:22,240
uh two calls

3712
02:35:28,389 --> 02:35:26,640
and uh i apologize for that that was

3713
02:35:40,389 --> 02:35:28,399
strange

3714
02:35:45,030 --> 02:35:43,349
i was getting ready to end and okay i've

3715
02:35:49,349 --> 02:35:45,040
restarted the software

3716
02:35:52,389 --> 02:35:50,309
uh

3717
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:52,399
i i apologize for that i don't know if

3718
02:35:57,750 --> 02:35:56,399
that was me or or what that was

3719
02:36:00,309 --> 02:35:57,760
but uh

3720
02:36:02,309 --> 02:36:00,319
there there go uh there go the open

3721
02:36:04,870 --> 02:36:02,319
lines right there

3722
02:36:10,070 --> 02:36:07,670
and uh okay so going back this is where

3723
02:36:13,110 --> 02:36:10,080
my mind was going i'll wait for this to

3724
02:36:17,030 --> 02:36:15,349
i'll wait for this to cycle back through

3725
02:36:19,590 --> 02:36:17,040
um

3726
02:36:22,070 --> 02:36:19,600
talking about manifesting so i want to

3727
02:36:25,030 --> 02:36:22,080
go back and talk about this for a second

3728
02:36:25,910 --> 02:36:25,040
um my opening rant tonight was a serious

3729
02:36:28,150 --> 02:36:25,920
one

3730
02:36:30,790 --> 02:36:28,160
and and i know that it it

3731
02:36:32,309 --> 02:36:30,800
it it sounds fun and and i'm talking

3732
02:36:35,030 --> 02:36:32,319
about my

3733
02:36:36,710 --> 02:36:35,040
imagination and and things

3734
02:36:39,349 --> 02:36:36,720
um but

3735
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:39,359
for some reason

3736
02:36:44,070 --> 02:36:41,600
over the last week and i know that i'm

3737
02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:44,080
gonna probably do this tonight you know

3738
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:45,520
after the show

3739
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:49,040
uh uh after dinner and everything else

3740
02:36:54,710 --> 02:36:52,080
and and i'll take that stroll outside

3741
02:36:55,830 --> 02:36:54,720
and look up at the stars and this stupid

3742
02:36:57,910 --> 02:36:55,840
vision

3743
02:36:59,190 --> 02:36:57,920
is going to come back

3744
02:37:04,150 --> 02:36:59,200
and

3745
02:37:05,590 --> 02:37:04,160
wanted to talk about uh in the rant i

3746
02:37:06,710 --> 02:37:05,600
just didn't have enough time to get back

3747
02:37:09,750 --> 02:37:06,720
into it

3748
02:37:11,110 --> 02:37:09,760
um there's another part to this though

3749
02:37:18,070 --> 02:37:11,120
and

3750
02:37:20,150 --> 02:37:18,080
causation

3751
02:37:21,510 --> 02:37:20,160
and and if it does it would be really

3752
02:37:22,790 --> 02:37:21,520
cool if it did

3753
02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:22,800
but uh

3754
02:37:27,830 --> 02:37:26,560
there's uh another part of this uh for

3755
02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:27,840
me

3756
02:37:33,190 --> 02:37:28,880
and

3757
02:37:35,590 --> 02:37:33,200
it's

3758
02:37:37,270 --> 02:37:35,600
quiet

3759
02:37:38,150 --> 02:37:37,280
and it's black

3760
02:37:41,429 --> 02:37:38,160
and it

3761
02:37:43,750 --> 02:37:41,439
there there are no lights it's just uh

3762
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:43,760
a shape

3763
02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:47,280
that that's all it is and

3764
02:37:50,790 --> 02:37:49,680
that part of it

3765
02:37:53,429 --> 02:37:50,800
uh

3766
02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:53,439
is is the part that is kind of messing

3767
02:37:57,429 --> 02:37:55,040
with me

3768
02:38:00,630 --> 02:37:57,439
where

3769
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:00,640
it's it's this

3770
02:38:06,070 --> 02:38:02,880
people see things

3771
02:38:06,710 --> 02:38:06,080
but nobody else reports it

3772
02:38:09,349 --> 02:38:06,720
and

3773
02:38:11,270 --> 02:38:09,359
i started to think about the if if

3774
02:38:12,870 --> 02:38:11,280
something like this

3775
02:38:15,750 --> 02:38:12,880
happened

3776
02:38:16,550 --> 02:38:15,760
and it was

3777
02:38:21,990 --> 02:38:16,560
uh

3778
02:38:25,270 --> 02:38:22,000
down and i actually see it

3779
02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:25,280
and then you wonder why and this

3780
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:26,640
particular

3781
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:29,359
i want to put this into words correctly

3782
02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:32,080
um this is something that

3783
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:33,040
in

3784
02:38:41,429 --> 02:38:39,920
goes over my and i happen to look up and

3785
02:38:43,750 --> 02:38:41,439
happen to see it at that point but

3786
02:38:45,190 --> 02:38:43,760
there's no lights there's no lights it's

3787
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:45,200
just a shadow

3788
02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:47,680
and so if this is happening

3789
02:38:51,110 --> 02:38:49,200
and it could be

3790
02:38:54,469 --> 02:38:51,120
then it wouldn't be seen and it wouldn't

3791
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:54,479
be reported it's just that moment

3792
02:38:59,910 --> 02:38:57,280
where i catch the action

3793
02:39:02,550 --> 02:38:59,920
and that's the part with this where

3794
02:39:06,230 --> 02:39:02,560
i'm just one what what if

3795
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:08,710
the other side

3796
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:16,790
that it's real

3797
02:39:20,710 --> 02:39:17,830
right

3798
02:39:23,349 --> 02:39:20,720
and and i am

3799
02:39:26,630 --> 02:39:23,359
really contemplating like every angle of

3800
02:39:29,270 --> 02:39:26,640
this and i'm really thinking about this

3801
02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:29,280
because uh

3802
02:39:33,910 --> 02:39:32,720
uh if i if i go back

3803
02:39:35,910 --> 02:39:33,920
you know

3804
02:39:37,030 --> 02:39:35,920
this last seven days with this thing

3805
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:37,040
where i've

3806
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:39,840
really let my mind go

3807
02:39:42,790 --> 02:39:41,680
and and started to apply different

3808
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:42,800
aspects

3809
02:39:44,870 --> 02:39:43,600
where

3810
02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:44,880
uh

3811
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:47,280
where i'm out with a group of people and

3812
02:39:51,830 --> 02:39:49,200
i see

3813
02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:51,840
something and we see all of this

3814
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:54,240
together

3815
02:39:59,030 --> 02:39:56,160
is it

3816
02:40:01,349 --> 02:39:59,040
collectively and we're going back to em

3817
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:01,359
and the connected universe is this

3818
02:40:05,670 --> 02:40:02,960
something that is

3819
02:40:08,070 --> 02:40:05,680
maybe not necessarily physical in front

3820
02:40:10,070 --> 02:40:08,080
of us and is this something that

3821
02:40:11,349 --> 02:40:10,080
we all

3822
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:11,359
uh

3823
02:40:15,349 --> 02:40:13,600
in in an interconnected sense all see

3824
02:40:18,309 --> 02:40:15,359
the same thing

3825
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:18,319
but it isn't necessarily physical

3826
02:40:23,990 --> 02:40:20,560
and that's the part of physics where the

3827
02:40:26,870 --> 02:40:24,000
science of this starts to blow my mind

3828
02:40:28,550 --> 02:40:26,880
where there is no question and and i'm

3829
02:40:30,550 --> 02:40:28,560
gonna go back uh

3830
02:40:33,670 --> 02:40:30,560
this is i thought about this week and i

3831
02:40:36,070 --> 02:40:33,680
thought about this over and over again i

3832
02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:36,080
don't talk about this much on the show

3833
02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:39,840
but there was a a single event

3834
02:40:47,670 --> 02:40:42,880
uh that happened with a group of us uh

3835
02:40:51,349 --> 02:40:47,680
i'm going to say comfortably 150

3836
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:51,359
of us are out in joshua tree

3837
02:40:57,110 --> 02:40:54,240
and we're all looking up at the sky

3838
02:41:00,070 --> 02:40:57,120
at the same time

3839
02:41:03,269 --> 02:41:00,080
and no night vision i mean i had night

3840
02:41:05,429 --> 02:41:03,279
vision in my hand but

3841
02:41:07,269 --> 02:41:05,439
what we saw

3842
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:07,279
was just in the sky

3843
02:41:12,469 --> 02:41:09,359
and that was

3844
02:41:17,510 --> 02:41:12,479
the zorro z

3845
02:41:20,070 --> 02:41:17,520
lasted about

3846
02:41:22,309 --> 02:41:20,080
five seconds maybe four

3847
02:41:24,950 --> 02:41:22,319
maybe even three

3848
02:41:28,870 --> 02:41:24,960
and uh okay hold on for a second okay

3849
02:41:32,469 --> 02:41:30,870
okay now the software is running wow

3850
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:32,479
that was weird

3851
02:41:39,910 --> 02:41:36,160
it was on it it switched to to red i'm

3852
02:41:42,070 --> 02:41:39,920
back to green lines are open um is this

3853
02:41:46,070 --> 02:41:42,080
the zorro z

3854
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:46,080
i'm looking at the camera and my green

3855
02:41:49,349 --> 02:41:47,359
turned green

3856
02:41:51,110 --> 02:41:49,359
right here anyway

3857
02:41:54,030 --> 02:41:51,120
the zorro z

3858
02:41:56,389 --> 02:41:54,040
this was

3859
02:41:59,429 --> 02:41:56,399
aquamarine i don't have a better way to

3860
02:42:02,469 --> 02:41:59,439
describe the color of blue or green it

3861
02:42:04,230 --> 02:42:02,479
was like in between blue and green

3862
02:42:08,150 --> 02:42:04,240
and uh

3863
02:42:14,309 --> 02:42:08,160
and it came across the sky and

3864
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:16,550
it kind of it came from

3865
02:42:21,830 --> 02:42:19,120
my right looking up

3866
02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:21,840
and it sputtered

3867
02:42:28,150 --> 02:42:24,560
and and came across stopped

3868
02:42:32,630 --> 02:42:29,429
and then

3869
02:42:34,870 --> 02:42:32,640
continued uh to the left

3870
02:42:38,070 --> 02:42:34,880
and then sputtered out and then flashed

3871
02:42:39,429 --> 02:42:38,080
and then was gone now

3872
02:42:47,110 --> 02:42:39,439
this

3873
02:42:49,269 --> 02:42:47,120
the one thing that i do remember

3874
02:42:53,030 --> 02:42:49,279
aside from the sighting itself

3875
02:42:54,790 --> 02:42:53,040
was how many people screamed

3876
02:42:56,710 --> 02:42:54,800
everybody saw it

3877
02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:56,720
and the oohs and the eyes and the

3878
02:43:03,030 --> 02:43:00,319
screams i screamed it was it was nuts

3879
02:43:04,950 --> 02:43:03,040
but physically

3880
02:43:07,110 --> 02:43:04,960
this isn't a plane

3881
02:43:11,110 --> 02:43:07,120
this isn't a meteor

3882
02:43:14,429 --> 02:43:11,120
this isn't some natural anomaly this

3883
02:43:19,110 --> 02:43:14,439
isn't a rocket this isn't something from

3884
02:43:20,830 --> 02:43:19,120
vandenberg this is it's not any of that

3885
02:43:22,389 --> 02:43:20,840
this was a

3886
02:43:25,030 --> 02:43:22,399
green

3887
02:43:27,830 --> 02:43:25,040
thing that sputtered

3888
02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:27,840
lit up and and the the entire event was

3889
02:43:37,750 --> 02:43:34,710
so what is that two three seconds

3890
02:43:40,790 --> 02:43:37,760
in front of everybody

3891
02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:40,800
that's a difficult thing to explain

3892
02:43:51,750 --> 02:43:48,710
real real physical real craft real thing

3893
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:51,760
showing up for us which is

3894
02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:53,680
what i had

3895
02:43:58,070 --> 02:43:55,920
concluded in my own

3896
02:43:59,590 --> 02:43:58,080
mind's eye that that that was a crap

3897
02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:59,600
that showed up for us

3898
02:44:03,349 --> 02:44:01,840
winked at us said hello we're here we're

3899
02:44:05,190 --> 02:44:03,359
doing this for you

3900
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:05,200
there's all this positive energy

3901
02:44:09,030 --> 02:44:06,960
everybody was great we wanted to see

3902
02:44:12,150 --> 02:44:09,040
something and bam this thing happens in

3903
02:44:16,830 --> 02:44:12,160
the sky it was real it happened plenty

3904
02:44:21,110 --> 02:44:19,269
or was it something that we just

3905
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:21,120
collectively

3906
02:44:29,670 --> 02:44:26,550
right

3907
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:29,680
that it was manifested

3908
02:44:36,070 --> 02:44:33,040
that and and we all saw the same thing

3909
02:44:38,389 --> 02:44:36,080
assuming it was real because we all saw

3910
02:44:40,790 --> 02:44:38,399
we all reacted at the same time

3911
02:44:42,990 --> 02:44:40,800
i don't know and this goes back to what

3912
02:44:45,670 --> 02:44:43,000
i'm talking about with physics and

3913
02:44:48,710 --> 02:44:45,680
interdimensionality and and the

3914
02:44:50,070 --> 02:44:48,720
connected hive mind

3915
02:44:51,110 --> 02:44:50,080
situation

3916
02:44:54,630 --> 02:44:51,120
because

3917
02:44:57,190 --> 02:44:54,640
this thing that happened with all of us

3918
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:57,200
and you have to listen to my words very

3919
02:45:02,870 --> 02:44:58,800
carefully

3920
02:45:05,030 --> 02:45:02,880
it happened the event was real

3921
02:45:08,150 --> 02:45:05,040
it was right there

3922
02:45:10,630 --> 02:45:08,160
and i could i can still see it perfectly

3923
02:45:12,950 --> 02:45:10,640
and it was unbelievable

3924
02:45:14,790 --> 02:45:12,960
you don't look up in the sky and see

3925
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:14,800
something like this ever

3926
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:16,880
and it happened for all of us at the

3927
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:24,150
i i can't explain it so if we go

3928
02:45:29,190 --> 02:45:27,359
one step further and we say okay this is

3929
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:29,200
e.t

3930
02:45:33,110 --> 02:45:31,279
i don't think this is any government

3931
02:45:35,030 --> 02:45:33,120
program or

3932
02:45:37,910 --> 02:45:35,040
tic-tac

3933
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:37,920
secret access program no not with this

3934
02:45:42,389 --> 02:45:40,160
kind of flight characteristics and and

3935
02:45:43,349 --> 02:45:42,399
what this thing did in the sky

3936
02:45:45,510 --> 02:45:43,359
all right

3937
02:45:47,830 --> 02:45:45,520
no no

3938
02:45:52,790 --> 02:45:47,840
e.t

3939
02:45:54,830 --> 02:45:52,800
right

3940
02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:54,840
that

3941
02:46:00,389 --> 02:45:57,680
or could it be something else could

3942
02:46:04,309 --> 02:46:00,399
there be something involved

3943
02:46:06,389 --> 02:46:04,319
with with physics and entanglement

3944
02:46:10,230 --> 02:46:06,399
in brain activity

3945
02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:10,240
and the thought and the power of thought

3946
02:46:14,870 --> 02:46:11,200
where

3947
02:46:17,510 --> 02:46:14,880
we saw and i think that that part of it

3948
02:46:20,710 --> 02:46:17,520
that part is probably

3949
02:46:22,870 --> 02:46:20,720
a crazier phenomenon uh than if it was

3950
02:46:26,150 --> 02:46:22,880
e.t

3951
02:46:28,550 --> 02:46:26,160
that that idea that thought process

3952
02:46:29,750 --> 02:46:28,560
which takes me back

3953
02:46:32,309 --> 02:46:29,760
to

3954
02:46:33,510 --> 02:46:32,319
manifesting this this this black

3955
02:46:35,429 --> 02:46:33,520
triangle

3956
02:46:38,550 --> 02:46:35,439
that if it happens

3957
02:46:41,349 --> 02:46:38,560
is it something that gets generated

3958
02:46:44,630 --> 02:46:41,359
and i've thought about it enough

3959
02:46:49,670 --> 02:46:44,640
and man i keep going

3960
02:47:03,269 --> 02:46:52,389
i am manifesting some crazy computer

3961
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:06,710
my phone system is just whack my phone

3962
02:47:14,230 --> 02:47:09,600
system is whack i'm watching it

3963
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:14,240
change uh from green to yellow

3964
02:47:18,830 --> 02:47:16,960
from green to yellow to red

3965
02:47:20,630 --> 02:47:18,840
which is

3966
02:47:22,469 --> 02:47:20,640
off

3967
02:47:24,550 --> 02:47:22,479
not available

3968
02:47:27,910 --> 02:47:24,560
and available all right those are the

3969
02:47:29,830 --> 02:47:27,920
three and it's literally cycling through

3970
02:47:31,990 --> 02:47:29,840
i wish i could take the camera and move

3971
02:47:35,349 --> 02:47:32,000
it around so you could see

3972
02:47:37,510 --> 02:47:35,359
uh what's going on here and uh i'm gonna

3973
02:47:39,990 --> 02:47:37,520
sign out

3974
02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:40,000
and i want to take some calls

3975
02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:40,880
and

3976
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:44,720
okay

3977
02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:52,150
man this is just uh this is just messed

3978
02:47:54,550 --> 02:47:53,359
up

3979
02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:54,560
but um

3980
02:48:00,870 --> 02:47:58,560
so going back to this manifesting part

3981
02:48:06,150 --> 02:48:00,880
with um

3982
02:48:11,670 --> 02:48:09,670
the shark is working and it's red

3983
02:48:13,349 --> 02:48:11,680
and it's red

3984
02:48:15,269 --> 02:48:13,359
okay i'm wondering what everybody's

3985
02:48:17,269 --> 02:48:15,279
hearing hi you're live i'm fade to black

3986
02:48:20,230 --> 02:48:17,279
who's calling

3987
02:48:23,670 --> 02:48:20,240
hey jimmy this is dave dave what are you

3988
02:48:41,030 --> 02:48:24,550
i

3989
02:48:44,150 --> 02:48:41,040
uh

3990
02:48:47,590 --> 02:48:44,160
my software here but you got through and

3991
02:48:51,030 --> 02:48:49,510
that's the topic

3992
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:51,040
huh

3993
02:48:52,710 --> 02:48:51,840
um

3994
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:52,720
and

3995
02:48:59,110 --> 02:48:54,800
so manifesting

3996
02:49:00,950 --> 02:48:59,120
i'm very interested in this and when

3997
02:49:03,349 --> 02:49:00,960
and i don't want to sound like the crazy

3998
02:49:04,309 --> 02:49:03,359
cat lady right i i don't want to be that

3999
02:49:06,710 --> 02:49:04,319
person

4000
02:49:10,150 --> 02:49:06,720
but it seems that

4001
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:10,160
if if i go back uh two a month ago when

4002
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:12,800
this strange

4003
02:49:16,950 --> 02:49:15,439
paranormal poltergeist activity started

4004
02:49:19,990 --> 02:49:16,960
to happen around here

4005
02:49:21,990 --> 02:49:20,000
i think i gave it the okay

4006
02:49:25,670 --> 02:49:22,000
right where there was the first little

4007
02:49:30,070 --> 02:49:25,680
signal and i was like okay cool right

4008
02:49:32,150 --> 02:49:30,080
and then uh you're manifesting it is is

4009
02:49:35,110 --> 02:49:32,160
that technically what's going on am i

4010
02:49:38,070 --> 02:49:35,120
thinking the right way

4011
02:49:39,750 --> 02:49:38,080
well it depends

4012
02:49:41,990 --> 02:49:39,760
what exactly does it mean to have

4013
02:49:42,870 --> 02:49:42,000
something manifest

4014
02:49:45,349 --> 02:49:42,880
now

4015
02:49:48,230 --> 02:49:45,359
to have something manifest means that

4016
02:49:51,190 --> 02:49:48,240
out of all the probabilities in all of

4017
02:49:53,349 --> 02:49:51,200
the multiple multiverses that are going

4018
02:49:56,469 --> 02:49:53,359
on in the now now

4019
02:49:57,429 --> 02:49:56,479
which one manifests in and this is the

4020
02:49:59,590 --> 02:49:57,439
big one

4021
02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:59,600
your reality tunnel because i've been

4022
02:50:02,950 --> 02:50:01,520
thinking about a lot of this and a lot

4023
02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:02,960
of your guests have mentioned things

4024
02:50:06,870 --> 02:50:04,960
about consciousness

4025
02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:06,880
and

4026
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:08,560
things of that regard

4027
02:50:11,590 --> 02:50:09,760
so

4028
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:11,600
how do you well paper your reality

4029
02:50:16,309 --> 02:50:13,760
tunnel well that's you know what the

4030
02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:16,319
things you put up so to speak

4031
02:50:20,870 --> 02:50:18,720
in your reality tom are what is going to

4032
02:50:23,670 --> 02:50:20,880
start to

4033
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:23,680
manifest or points

4034
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:25,840
from the ether will connect into your

4035
02:50:30,950 --> 02:50:29,200
consciousness and manifest as phenomena

4036
02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:30,960
right

4037
02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:36,960
uh this this crazy and i listen listen

4038
02:50:40,230 --> 02:50:38,160
i'm i'm just

4039
02:50:41,510 --> 02:50:40,240
i'm just sharing my little world with

4040
02:50:42,469 --> 02:50:41,520
everybody

4041
02:50:45,510 --> 02:50:42,479
and

4042
02:50:48,389 --> 02:50:45,520
uh when i talk about this this black

4043
02:50:50,870 --> 02:50:48,399
triangle thing i'm just sharing my my my

4044
02:50:53,269 --> 02:50:50,880
personal little experience and

4045
02:50:57,030 --> 02:50:53,279
and and throwing it out there

4046
02:50:57,910 --> 02:50:57,040
but if if you allow that

4047
02:51:00,630 --> 02:50:57,920
that

4048
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:00,640
i keep saying vision right whatever it

4049
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:04,240
is that's going on your brain is forcing

4050
02:51:09,910 --> 02:51:06,160
this activity

4051
02:51:13,830 --> 02:51:09,920
right it's this isn't me doing it my

4052
02:51:16,630 --> 02:51:13,840
brain is is is five minutes ahead of

4053
02:51:20,469 --> 02:51:16,640
whatever i want to do right i think that

4054
02:51:21,429 --> 02:51:20,479
i have free will your brain is is is

4055
02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:21,439
working

4056
02:51:25,429 --> 02:51:23,120
way ahead of this

4057
02:51:27,670 --> 02:51:25,439
that we got to take on another day free

4058
02:51:29,429 --> 02:51:27,680
will and phenomena right right right

4059
02:51:32,070 --> 02:51:29,439
right right so

4060
02:51:33,349 --> 02:51:32,080
this thing keeps repeating

4061
02:51:36,230 --> 02:51:33,359
and

4062
02:51:41,190 --> 02:51:36,240
uh it it's going on for a reason right

4063
02:51:46,070 --> 02:51:43,269
right

4064
02:51:49,030 --> 02:51:46,080
so you

4065
02:51:51,910 --> 02:51:49,040
what do i do if something

4066
02:51:55,429 --> 02:51:51,920
actually happens and if it does actually

4067
02:51:57,110 --> 02:51:55,439
happen now i have to go back and think

4068
02:51:59,269 --> 02:51:57,120
is this something that my brain is

4069
02:52:00,870 --> 02:51:59,279
messing with me or is this a real

4070
02:52:02,870 --> 02:52:00,880
physical event

4071
02:52:04,790 --> 02:52:02,880
that or is there any difference between

4072
02:52:07,590 --> 02:52:04,800
the two right

4073
02:52:13,429 --> 02:52:07,600
that's exactly my point

4074
02:52:18,550 --> 02:52:16,550
a reality of being alive right right

4075
02:52:21,670 --> 02:52:18,560
right right uh you know you go back to

4076
02:52:24,150 --> 02:52:21,680
like um uh you know plato's cave

4077
02:52:26,309 --> 02:52:24,160
right and you and you think about it in

4078
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:26,319
those terms or

4079
02:52:31,510 --> 02:52:28,960
uh you know a fish in a fish bowl

4080
02:52:33,190 --> 02:52:31,520
a fish in a fish in a fish tank that's

4081
02:52:35,750 --> 02:52:33,200
his world

4082
02:52:37,750 --> 02:52:35,760
that's it he doesn't know anything you

4083
02:52:40,950 --> 02:52:37,760
know the surface of the water

4084
02:52:43,510 --> 02:52:40,960
and and what's going on that that is uh

4085
02:52:46,710 --> 02:52:43,520
that is a parallel reality

4086
02:52:48,469 --> 02:52:46,720
that he knows nothing about but we know

4087
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:48,479
that there's a whole world going on out

4088
02:52:52,469 --> 02:52:49,920
here

4089
02:52:55,030 --> 02:52:52,479
right and is is that is that part of our

4090
02:52:57,429 --> 02:52:55,040
reality are we in a fish bowl and we

4091
02:53:01,510 --> 02:52:57,439
don't understand what exists

4092
02:53:06,790 --> 02:53:04,710
well you know am i

4093
02:53:09,990 --> 02:53:06,800
is there anything outside the

4094
02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:10,000
the goldfish is a reality that he isn't

4095
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:11,520
aware of

4096
02:53:14,950 --> 02:53:13,120
are you you know are you just this

4097
02:53:16,230 --> 02:53:14,960
nebulous figure

4098
02:53:18,469 --> 02:53:16,240
and

4099
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:18,479
you're looking through one one fun house

4100
02:53:22,150 --> 02:53:21,040
mirror it's looking through another

4101
02:53:23,510 --> 02:53:22,160
at you

4102
02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:23,520
right

4103
02:53:28,070 --> 02:53:25,840
yes

4104
02:53:29,990 --> 02:53:28,080
so

4105
02:53:33,750 --> 02:53:30,000
where am i going with this

4106
02:53:37,309 --> 02:53:35,110
is that

4107
02:53:39,750 --> 02:53:37,319
all there is in the in the

4108
02:53:42,309 --> 02:53:39,760
phenomenological world is

4109
02:53:44,469 --> 02:53:42,319
i i don't like the the example of the

4110
02:53:46,870 --> 02:53:44,479
little goldfish it kind of gets too

4111
02:53:50,710 --> 02:53:46,880
limiting for me and this thing has got a

4112
02:53:52,950 --> 02:53:50,720
lot of big concepts to break down

4113
02:53:55,990 --> 02:53:52,960
um

4114
02:53:57,590 --> 02:53:56,000
big big picture is you are making active

4115
02:54:01,269 --> 02:53:57,600
choices

4116
02:54:03,269 --> 02:54:01,279
and that is what creates the reality

4117
02:54:04,389 --> 02:54:03,279
conscious choices

4118
02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:04,399
not just

4119
02:54:09,190 --> 02:54:06,800
you know yes you breathe

4120
02:54:10,150 --> 02:54:09,200
every every you know how many times per

4121
02:54:12,309 --> 02:54:10,160
minute

4122
02:54:14,389 --> 02:54:12,319
but are you conscious of your breathing

4123
02:54:16,309 --> 02:54:14,399
are you consciously breathing is is that

4124
02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:16,319
really what you're doing

4125
02:54:19,990 --> 02:54:17,920
same thing with our

4126
02:54:21,910 --> 02:54:20,000
daily habits and everything when you

4127
02:54:23,910 --> 02:54:21,920
make a conscious choice

4128
02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:23,920
and it has to you know it does take

4129
02:54:27,349 --> 02:54:26,000
something a little bit more out of the

4130
02:54:29,510 --> 02:54:27,359
average

4131
02:54:30,870 --> 02:54:29,520
of your just day-to-day

4132
02:54:33,349 --> 02:54:30,880
responding

4133
02:54:36,710 --> 02:54:33,359
reacting to the world around you when

4134
02:54:38,790 --> 02:54:36,720
you make a conscious choice then

4135
02:54:41,110 --> 02:54:38,800
bing that's where the magic takes place

4136
02:54:44,070 --> 02:54:41,120
that's where the manifestation can take

4137
02:54:47,349 --> 02:54:45,990
the uh

4138
02:54:51,990 --> 02:54:47,359
the

4139
02:54:54,309 --> 02:54:52,000
why

4140
02:54:56,389 --> 02:54:54,319
you can have

4141
02:54:59,830 --> 02:54:56,399
a group of people

4142
02:55:02,550 --> 02:54:59,840
that all see paranormal activity

4143
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:02,560
and describe it differently

4144
02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:05,359
that it may not necessarily have been a

4145
02:55:10,230 --> 02:55:07,680
physical reality but a manifested

4146
02:55:12,389 --> 02:55:10,240
reality that is entangled

4147
02:55:15,830 --> 02:55:12,399
amongst different brains

4148
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:15,840
and they don't see the exact same thing

4149
02:55:21,590 --> 02:55:20,080
that that green zorro z uh that uh i

4150
02:55:23,429 --> 02:55:21,600
talked about earlier

4151
02:55:25,750 --> 02:55:23,439
um i was

4152
02:55:27,269 --> 02:55:25,760
uh talking with somebody later a few

4153
02:55:29,269 --> 02:55:27,279
minutes later after this happened we

4154
02:55:31,670 --> 02:55:29,279
were all excited and it was all great

4155
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:31,680
and this person saw the z

4156
02:55:34,630 --> 02:55:32,880
zag

4157
02:55:37,349 --> 02:55:34,640
up

4158
02:55:40,469 --> 02:55:37,359
not down

4159
02:55:44,550 --> 02:55:40,479
right now and i was i was like no it

4160
02:55:45,590 --> 02:55:44,560
went what i mean i saw it and

4161
02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:45,600
and

4162
02:55:52,550 --> 02:55:50,640
saw the exact same thing i talked to

4163
02:55:57,349 --> 02:55:52,560
somebody a few minutes later

4164
02:55:58,870 --> 02:55:57,359
and they insisted that it zigged up

4165
02:56:01,030 --> 02:55:58,880
now

4166
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:01,040
what's going on here did we see the same

4167
02:56:05,030 --> 02:56:03,439
thing you know obviously we saw the same

4168
02:56:07,110 --> 02:56:05,040
event

4169
02:56:09,670 --> 02:56:07,120
but saw it

4170
02:56:11,910 --> 02:56:09,680
opposite well

4171
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:11,920
well okay what is the phenomena that

4172
02:56:18,230 --> 02:56:13,840
you're seeing i like to couch it in

4173
02:56:20,870 --> 02:56:18,240
terms of jungian psychology psychology

4174
02:56:23,110 --> 02:56:20,880
and term it has something

4175
02:56:26,710 --> 02:56:23,120
numinous

4176
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:26,720
is powerful

4177
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:28,560
that has

4178
02:56:32,469 --> 02:56:30,720
a well i would call it a spiritual

4179
02:56:37,269 --> 02:56:32,479
component

4180
02:56:38,830 --> 02:56:37,279
so when something manifests in the

4181
02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:38,840
numinous

4182
02:56:42,550 --> 02:56:41,439
arena to one person it might manifest as

4183
02:56:45,990 --> 02:56:42,560
ghost

4184
02:56:47,910 --> 02:56:46,000
to another person it might be a fairy to

4185
02:56:49,429 --> 02:56:47,920
another person it might be a man in

4186
02:56:51,429 --> 02:56:49,439
black or

4187
02:56:53,830 --> 02:56:51,439
a shadow person

4188
02:56:57,030 --> 02:56:53,840
or e.t

4189
02:56:58,870 --> 02:56:57,040
but it's all the same thing right in

4190
02:57:00,070 --> 02:56:58,880
a certain

4191
02:57:02,070 --> 02:57:00,080
perspective

4192
02:57:04,630 --> 02:57:02,080
it's just all the same yeah yeah it's

4193
02:57:07,110 --> 02:57:04,640
such a fascinating subject uh to me

4194
02:57:09,030 --> 02:57:07,120
manifests in each person's

4195
02:57:10,790 --> 02:57:09,040
you know

4196
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:10,800
each person's uh

4197
02:57:15,590 --> 02:57:13,600
reality tunnel right is based on their

4198
02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:15,600
choices and what what do you put up as

4199
02:57:22,070 --> 02:57:18,880
wallpaper what is on your radar what do

4200
02:57:27,349 --> 02:57:22,080
you put up on your radar

4201
02:57:30,309 --> 02:57:27,359
is adding conscious intention to what

4202
02:57:32,790 --> 02:57:30,319
you want to see come through

4203
02:57:35,110 --> 02:57:32,800
it's such a fascinating subject

4204
02:57:37,190 --> 02:57:35,120
and oh i can go much deeper than this

4205
02:57:40,309 --> 02:57:37,200
well we're only scratching the surface

4206
02:57:43,269 --> 02:57:40,319
well but but this is uh this is for me

4207
02:57:45,670 --> 02:57:43,279
where it gets just a little bit nuts

4208
02:57:48,389 --> 02:57:47,670
right when you go

4209
02:57:51,349 --> 02:57:48,399
and

4210
02:57:53,750 --> 02:57:51,359
uh

4211
02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:53,760
the mainstream physicist and their

4212
02:57:58,070 --> 02:57:56,720
research go and just check out what they

4213
02:58:00,469 --> 02:57:58,080
are doing

4214
02:58:02,950 --> 02:58:00,479
it is exactly what we're talking about

4215
02:58:05,429 --> 02:58:02,960
right now they think they're working on

4216
02:58:08,710 --> 02:58:05,439
math and they are trying to prove the

4217
02:58:11,510 --> 02:58:08,720
existence of uh something else that is

4218
02:58:13,429 --> 02:58:11,520
happening in nature in the world of

4219
02:58:16,309 --> 02:58:13,439
physics right

4220
02:58:18,550 --> 02:58:16,319
and you just read the and it is exactly

4221
02:58:20,550 --> 02:58:18,560
what we're talking about right now and

4222
02:58:22,790 --> 02:58:20,560
it's right there man and things if they

4223
02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:22,800
if these algorithms start to

4224
02:58:27,349 --> 02:58:25,840
uh complete themselves right and this

4225
02:58:29,429 --> 02:58:27,359
moves into

4226
02:58:31,349 --> 02:58:29,439
a laboratory setting and they're

4227
02:58:32,950 --> 02:58:31,359
starting to repeat this

4228
02:58:36,070 --> 02:58:32,960
everything that you and i are talking

4229
02:58:37,510 --> 02:58:36,080
about right now and these things

4230
02:58:39,670 --> 02:58:37,520
are are

4231
02:58:42,790 --> 02:58:39,680
are going to freak some people out

4232
02:58:45,269 --> 02:58:42,800
when if if if the physicists get their

4233
02:58:48,790 --> 02:58:45,279
way i'm being very serious dave very

4234
02:58:56,070 --> 02:58:50,309
most definitely

4235
02:58:58,950 --> 02:58:57,030
again

4236
02:59:01,510 --> 02:58:58,960
one of the things that a lot of your

4237
02:59:04,230 --> 02:59:01,520
guests are talking about is the paradigm

4238
02:59:05,990 --> 02:59:04,240
that we're in is shifting from

4239
02:59:08,550 --> 02:59:06,000
the experts

4240
02:59:11,670 --> 02:59:08,560
to the individual perception in creating

4241
02:59:14,790 --> 02:59:11,680
reality right right right

4242
02:59:16,710 --> 02:59:14,800
and yes the the physicists are getting

4243
02:59:18,309 --> 02:59:16,720
on board and they're

4244
02:59:20,309 --> 02:59:18,319
doing some you know

4245
02:59:23,349 --> 02:59:20,319
work that i find fascinating and i wish

4246
02:59:24,070 --> 02:59:23,359
i could understand more of

4247
02:59:27,269 --> 02:59:24,080
but

4248
02:59:28,790 --> 02:59:27,279
yes the it's showing that you know what

4249
02:59:31,269 --> 02:59:28,800
what you know the ancients have been

4250
02:59:33,269 --> 02:59:31,279
telling us for you know 40 50

4251
02:59:35,670 --> 02:59:33,279
100 million years

4252
02:59:38,630 --> 02:59:35,680
you know that

4253
02:59:41,429 --> 02:59:38,640
our thoughts actions

4254
02:59:43,830 --> 02:59:41,439
and our words

4255
02:59:45,990 --> 02:59:43,840
lead to manifestation now it isn't as

4256
02:59:48,150 --> 02:59:46,000
easy as wishful thinking that's the

4257
02:59:50,230 --> 02:59:48,160
problem right it isn't as easy as

4258
02:59:51,990 --> 02:59:50,240
wishing on a star

4259
02:59:53,190 --> 02:59:52,000
to make something happen that's right

4260
02:59:54,830 --> 02:59:53,200
two different things two different

4261
02:59:56,389 --> 02:59:54,840
things

4262
02:59:57,910 --> 02:59:56,399
um

4263
02:59:59,349 --> 02:59:57,920
do something like

4264
03:00:01,269 --> 02:59:59,359
if you wanted to

4265
03:00:04,469 --> 03:00:01,279
say communicate with ghosts

4266
03:00:06,550 --> 03:00:04,479
take a statue of casper put a candle

4267
03:00:10,070 --> 03:00:06,560
put a little liquor put a little water

4268
03:00:12,950 --> 03:00:10,080
put a little candy change it every day

4269
03:00:15,429 --> 03:00:13,990
you know

4270
03:00:17,910 --> 03:00:15,439
and that's why

4271
03:00:19,590 --> 03:00:17,920
um chaos magic yeah that's right that's

4272
03:00:23,670 --> 03:00:19,600
right that's right that's why i said

4273
03:00:26,389 --> 03:00:23,680
earlier uh in my rant if i come back

4274
03:00:29,670 --> 03:00:26,399
with a black triangle sighting that is

4275
03:00:31,349 --> 03:00:29,680
anywhere close to what i have described

4276
03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:31,359
that's why i chose to go public with

4277
03:00:36,389 --> 03:00:34,000
this just call my bs

4278
03:00:39,190 --> 03:00:36,399
just just call a bs fan

4279
03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:39,200
because if if if

4280
03:00:43,429 --> 03:00:42,160
if this manifests and this turns into a

4281
03:00:47,830 --> 03:00:43,439
reality

4282
03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:47,840
i i i don't know if my my mind can uh uh

4283
03:00:51,510 --> 03:00:48,960
accept it

4284
03:00:53,990 --> 03:00:51,520
i'd rather just have it be my magic

4285
03:00:55,429 --> 03:00:54,000
that's right that's right hey dave man

4286
03:00:56,790 --> 03:00:55,439
behave and be well we'll see you

4287
03:00:59,190 --> 03:00:56,800
tomorrow night right here for fader

4288
03:01:01,990 --> 03:00:59,200
night thank you so much absolutely we'll

4289
03:01:05,590 --> 03:01:02,000
continue peace you're the best that is

4290
03:01:06,710 --> 03:01:05,600
dave at large right there dave at large

4291
03:01:08,950 --> 03:01:06,720
he's back

4292
03:01:11,429 --> 03:01:08,960
he is back this is what what a great

4293
03:01:12,950 --> 03:01:11,439
fader night tonight or fader night what

4294
03:01:15,349 --> 03:01:12,960
a great show tonight

4295
03:01:17,990 --> 03:01:15,359
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4296
03:01:21,670 --> 03:01:18,000
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4297
03:01:23,030 --> 03:01:21,680
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4298
03:01:24,230 --> 03:01:23,040
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4299
03:01:26,630 --> 03:01:24,240
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4300
03:01:27,870 --> 03:01:26,640
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4301
03:01:30,150 --> 03:01:27,880
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4302
03:01:32,150 --> 03:01:30,160
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4303
03:01:33,349 --> 03:01:32,160
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4304
03:01:35,510 --> 03:01:33,359
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4305
03:01:37,269 --> 03:01:35,520
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4306
03:01:39,670 --> 03:01:37,279
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4307
03:01:42,070 --> 03:01:39,680
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4308
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4309
03:01:45,990 --> 03:01:44,000
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4310
03:01:52,389 --> 03:01:46,000
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4311
03:01:56,870 --> 03:01:55,349
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4312
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4313
03:02:01,990 --> 03:01:59,760
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4314
03:02:04,230 --> 03:02:02,000
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4315
03:02:05,910 --> 03:02:04,240
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4316
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4317
03:02:08,870 --> 03:02:07,520
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03:02:10,309 --> 03:02:08,880
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4319
03:02:12,469 --> 03:02:10,319
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4320
03:02:13,750 --> 03:02:12,479
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4321
03:02:15,269 --> 03:02:13,760
for fader night

4322
03:02:17,349 --> 03:02:15,279
until then

4323
03:02:27,390 --> 03:02:17,359
be safe